Anyone make a small concealable percussion pistol

[golden sky]

something I can keep in a pocket for 1 shot?

 

[deermanok]

Traditions has a small 31 caliber pocket pistol.

 

[leadhoarder]

I would think one of those pistols that you load by screwing the barrel onto the action would work well in that application.

 

[Flintlock]

CVA and probably several others used to make copies of the little Remington 5 shot .31. Smaller than many single shot pocket guns and very reliable.

 

[Cpt Flint]

Dixie Gun Works sells the Lincoln Deringer.

 

[Roundball2319]

North American Arms sales a 22 caliber one

 

[golden sky]

thanks for the info guys I'll look em up

 

[Loyalist Dave]

something I can keep in a pocket for 1 shot?

This is a better "derringer" than the one used for President Lincoln. It's a true screw barrel, so the bullet is forced onto the rifling, and thus you get better ballistics.

Pedersoli Screw Barrel

LD

 

[Larry (Omaha)]

something I can keep in a pocket for 1 shot?

Snakes...........OK, defense, don't waste your time! You did not ask for advice, so sorry about this note......... If you want novelty, or for killing snakes, go for it! If you want to defend yourself, better have more than one shot and a fast draw holster. You will be dead by the time you get it out of your pocket. Did not mean to preach, but the streets are getting tougher every day

 

[TFoley]

This is a better "derringer" than the one used for President Lincoln. It's a true screw barrel, so the bullet is forced onto the rifling, and thus you get better ballistics.

Pedersoli Screw Barrel

LD

Yup, I bleeve that our own Mike Beliveau recently did a narticle about it.

 

[Cpt Flint]

The Deringer sold by Dixie is a high quality little pistol meant to be taken seriously. Mine shoots a 100 grain ball at a measured 680 fps
and is a hoot to shoot. It loads and shoots easily in a conventional manner and can be used as a tin can gun. Reloads in about one minute. Considering all this I fail to see the advantage of a screw barrel in ?ballistics?
Is that interior or exterior ballistics.

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Considering all this I fail to see the advantage of a screw barrel in ?ballistics?
Is that interior or exterior ballistics.

So the Philadelphia Derringer is the same caliber as the screw-barrel.
The Philadelphia Derringer barrel is 3.0625"
The screw-barrel pistol has a barrel of 2.375"
However, unlike the screw-barrel the Philadelphia derringer being a muzzleloader, the powder and the patched ball take up a portion of that barrel length, much more than the ball from the screw-barrel takes up in that pistol. So the screw-barrel actually acts as a longer barrel. The ball from the screw-barrel has a longer acceleration distance. THEN the screw-barrel also has a complete seal of the black powder gases, because the ball seals the chamber, and swages onto the rifling within the barrel.

THUS the screw-barrel will deliver, with a powder load equal to the Philadelphia derringer, higher muzzle velocity. Higher velocity = more deformation on impact and more damage to the target. IF one was to use shot in the screw-barrel, as a single shot snake gun, one could put more shot into the load due to the screw-barrel design, as there is more room.

These are the ballistic advantages of the the screw-barrel pistol. It doesn't mean that the Philadelphia is bad. In fact the Philadelphia derringer is about 1.5" smaller than the screw-barrel pistol.

OH and the screw-barrel kit is half the price of the Philadelphia derringer kit....

LD

 

[Cpt Flint]

Well spoken.

 

[nkbj]

Hmm, knife pistols have been around for a few centuries.

 

[user 51067]

The Deringer sold by Dixie is a high quality little pistol meant to be taken seriously. Mine shoots a 100 grain ball at a measured 680 fps
and is a hoot to shoot. It loads and shoots easily in a conventional manner and can be used as a tin can gun. Reloads in about one minute. Considering all this I fail to see the advantage of a screw barrel in ?ballistics?
Is that interior or exterior ballistics.

The "advantage"occurs when the screw barrel is NOT loaded in the conventional manner. Unscrew the barrel, place powder in the chamber, place the slightly oversized ball over the chamber, and screw on the barrel. When fired, the oversized ball positively engages the rifling without ANY escape of gas or the need of a patch.

 

[Old Hawkeye]

Carrying something for self-defense means your LIFE may be on the line. Do you really want to stake your LIFE on an anemic BP derringer based on 200 year old technology? Many unmentionables out there that will fill your requirements with much more reliability & lethality. Think about it! I own several BP derringers.
The 31 cal "vest pocket' will not penetrate a pumpkin shell @ 10 feet! The "screw barrel" powder chamber has a limited capacity of about 9 grains & is a powder puff! The Philly is hard to get out of a pocket because of the big hammer & is also anemic. Remember Lincoln got shot in the head at point blank range & he took hours to die. The New Orleans "Ace" is the only one that packs a marginally effective load with 20 grains of powder, a 45 cal ball, & a longer barrel, but it is more suited to boot carry than in a pocket. People used these guns in the past because that's all they had! I enjoy & shoot all my derringers, but in no way would I trust my LIFE to them. Just my two cents.

 

[johnfrommd]

I too would recommend not carrying a single shot BP pistol for self defense. It might have a cool factor to you but it may just get you killed.

 

[Flintlock]

These little guns never worked even back then when they were popular, look around people who carried them are all dead now. Shouldn't need more proof than that.

 

[YJake]

something I can keep in a pocket for 1 shot?

This is my “spitting distance” ruffian deterrent.

-Jake

 

[golden sky]

i have to look up the laws for this here in California, they just recntly banned ghost guns here so I'm worried these BP firearms might fall under that law

i plan on using BP pistol for coyote/snake deterent when in the wood , not for walking the tough streets of the ghettos. I have a couple modern guns for that. i just dont want to carry a modern gun because our forestry department will not let me open-carry on trails