aperture sights

[The Hungry Hunter]

When where the aperture sights start being used on percussion rifles?

 

[Artificer]

Simple Aperture rear sights go all the way back to Matchlocks and Wheel locks, though normally only on target rifles. What kind of aperture sights are you talking about, though?

Gus

 

[The Hungry Hunter]

What I was wonder is that I have a Lyman Trade rifle and the 57Ml receiver sight for it. Would that be period correct for the fur Trade era ?

 

[Grenadier1758]

The Lyman 57 SML receiver peep sight for muzzleloading firearms is a modern sight solution to provide an adjustable peep sight for Lyman Great Plains rifles and T/C Hawken rifles. It is designed for an octagon barrel and can be adapted to other octagon barrels.

While peep sights have been installed on very early applications such as cross bows, that sight is not an application that will pass muster at a pre 1840 rendezvous.

I have the old eyes and I appreciate the clear sight picture a good peep sight provides. My solution was to go to a smoothbore with only a front sight.

The blunt reply is "No".

 

[ZUG]

What I was wonder is that I have a Lyman Trade rifle and the 57Ml receiver sight for it. Would that be period correct for the fur Trade era ?

I think that would be in the year of 1965 for the 57 Ml and 90 MJT receiver sight :haha: . I'm a fan of the aperture sights where legal for target matches and hunting.

 

[azmntman]

I dunno why but other than on my bow, peep sights hinder my groups rather than help em :idunno:

 

[mooman76]

Different sights work different for each individual. I don't care for peep sights myself. I can shoot good with them but it's easy for me to change my aiming point and be shooting to a different point on the target.

 

[Stumpkiller]

They are not all created equal. I had a Lyman 57 micrometer peep on a .223 REM that was grim death on woodchucks out to 250 yards. But they're about contemporary with Mauser Model 1898s and later.

You need something like this. ;-)

 

[Spikebuck]

I have seen a number of simple, hand-made peeps here on the forum. If you do a search, you may find pictures of some of them.

The only production traditional-looking peep I know of is the Johnson Peep sight available from Muzzleloader Builders Supply. As is, it is fixed via two screws. On my last build I attached a dovetail to it to allow some windage adjustment, if needed.

I add a Williams Aperture with a brass ring.

 

[bigted]

that sir is smokin hot. I really like the idea.

is it a real throwback to the 18th century tho?

 

[Rifleman1776]

Simple Aperture rear sights go all the way back to Matchlocks and Wheel locks, though normally only on target rifles. What kind of aperture sights are you talking about, though?

Gus

Actually, they go back to pre-firearms times on cross bows. Meaning they date on percussion rifles to when birth was given to percussion rifles.

 

[Flint62Smoothie]

Actually, they go back to pre-firearms times on crossbows.

Yes, I was just going to add that when I saw your post!

 

[Grenadier1758]

Yes, aperture sights go back to cross bows of the 16th century. The Lyman 57 style can only be dated to about 1960.

 

[Spikebuck]

is it a real throwback to the 18th century tho?

Glad to hear you like it. I don't know that this was modeled after any "real" peep from any time period. I just like the looks of it and they work for me. They come in brass too.

 

[Zonie]

Another peep sight, mounted on the Schuetzen rifle I built.



I bought this thru Dixie Gunworks a number of years ago.
Unfortunately, they no longer have them.

 

[hawkeye2]

VTI Gun Parts has what appears to be the same sight for $150. It's made by Pedersoli and it's difficult to tell by the tiny photo but may be the same as yours, at least it's close. I had intended to buy one of those sights from Dixie years age for a project, never got to it and then they were gone. They were about $80 if I remember. I have another project gun coming up that may need one.

 

[Semisane]

I made this one for about $2.

(See the build here: http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/295543/post/1495380/hl//fromsearch/1/ )

 

[Artificer]

Yes, aperture sights go back to cross bows of the 16th century. The Lyman 57 style can only be dated to about 1960.

To all who have mentioned it.

Yes, guys, I know aperture sights go back to crossbows and even a LOT earlier than that on some Roman Bolt throwing machines that they stole the idea from the Ancient Greeks; however, I just mentioned matchlocks and wheel locks as they are some of the earliest guns made.

Gus

 

[ol vern]

Here is one I made it's silver soldered to the tang bolt. If the PC
police say I can't use it I just swap it out for a regular tang bolt.