Are Swiss and Schuetzen the same powder?

[longcruise]

I was wondering this myself. Recently I found Schutzen for $23 a pound. The same place offers the Swiss powder for $32 a pound.

I plan on ordering a couple of pounds. Do you guys think the Swiss is good enough that I should spend 10 more dollars a pound?

That's really a matter of personal perception and will probably vary from shooter to shooter.

At one time I had on hand goex 2f & 3f, grafs, swiss, elephant, Pyrodex and Scheutzen. Swiss undoubtedly shot faster than all ( all were chronographed). I originally got the Swiss for cartridge and it was excellent but I'm just a hunter so it wasn't a necessary increment.

I didn't notice any special accuracy differences between any of the powders. I've been using Scheutzen for a few years now and am satisfied with it. When the "new" Goex by Estes comes out I'll try some. I'm pretty sure it will be a whole different product and am ready to switch if it suits me.

 

[pacanis]

That's really a matter of personal perception and will probably vary from shooter to shooter.

At one time I had on hand goex 2f & 3f, grafs, swiss, elephant, Pyrodex and Scheutzen. Swiss undoubtedly shot faster than all ( all were chronographed). I originally got the Swiss for cartridge and it was excellent but I'm just a hunter so it wasn't a necessary increment.

I didn't notice any special accuracy differences between any of the powders. I've been using Scheutzen for a few years now and am satisfied with it. When the "new" Goex by Estes comes out I'll try some. I'm pretty sure it will be a whole different product and am ready to switch if it suits me.

By Swiss being faster, which I've read a lot say, do folks use less?
Sort of like not using as much 3F as you would 2F ?

 

[Mad L]

GOEX, OE, Swiss, Scheutzen; it's all good to me for it keeps me from having to use fake powder (some of you call it "substitute").

I am currently set with a decent supply of cans and bottles, including a half can of Dupont, an on old can of "SuperFine" (2F) GOEX, and a can ofElephant (I only use Elephant inthe blunderbuss).

The only one I have not yet had the chance to try is Swiss Null B....too many horders out there keep beating me to it!!

 

[smokepolehall]

By Swiss being faster, which I've read a lot say, do folks use less?
Sort of like not using as much 3F as you would 2F ?

I bet you can drop charge on Swiss by 10 gr n be about even up with Graf/Schuetzen of equal f grade.

 

[pacanis]

I bet you can drop charge on Swiss by 10 gr n be about even up with Graf/Schuetzen of equal f grade.

Nice.
That's 16 more shots/lb if you were shooting 70gr of something else

 

[longcruise]

By Swiss being faster, which I've read a lot say, do folks use less?
Sort of like not using as much 3F as you would 2F ?

Personally I've never been in that situation. While I've shot a number of different powders and done chronograph comparisons, the only ones that I've used extensively and long term are goex and Scheutzen. Goex in 2f and 3f and Scheutzen in 3f. The chronograph didn't show major differences between the two and I don't recall ever having any major differences in POI. However my rifles have adjustable sights and I regularly fiddle with them depending on what kind of shooting I'm doing so differences would not be noticeable.

As far as economy goes, the most economical powder is Pyrodex. Economical in initial cost and uses 30% less powder in weight for equal volume AND shot by volume was near identical in velocity to goex. Hodgdon claim of more shots per pound are dead on.