ASM 1847 Whitneyville Walker value?

[rafterob]

I have an opportunity to make an offer on one of these, looks like a mid to late 1970 production. What are your estimates on current values?

 

[SDSmlf]

I have an opportunity to make an offer on one of these, looks like a mid to late 1970 production. What are your estimates on current values?

They seem to sell in the $300-$400 range depending on condition and any included accouterments. A real concern would be spare part availability, as ASM has not made guns since???

 

[Jappo]

Are you referring to the Walker or the Whitneyville dragoon? ASM made a Dragoon that had the stamp WHITNEYVILLE above the wedge on the left side. And it had a loading lever with a latch.
The early ASM had tiny trigger and bolt screw heads. Parts are nearly impossible to find. Then they made the ones with the larger screw heads. Ive found these to be able to use Uberti parts.
As for price? Depends on condition. Late 70s model might be worth 250 up. Right now prices on those is all over the place. Ubertis are as low as $300.

 

[M. De Land]

Are you referring to the Walker or the Whitneyville dragoon? ASM made a Dragoon that had the stamp WHITNEYVILLE above the wedge on the left side. And it had a loading lever with a latch.
The early ASM had tiny trigger and bolt screw heads. Parts are nearly impossible to find. Then they made the ones with the larger screw heads. Ive found these to be able to use Uberti parts.
As for price? Depends on condition. Late 70s model might be worth 250 up. Right now prices on those is all over the place. Ubertis are as low as $300.

Keep in mind any decent machinist can make the replacement parts needed like screws, wedges, triggers , hammers, etc for these obsolete models.

 

[Long Johns Wolf]

Another aspect: ASM made two variants of the Walker.
In the more common variant the upper end of the grip panels is a straight line.
They account for ca. 90 % of the total Walker production.
Some 10 % only were made with the historical round upper end of the grip panels.
A few of these are of those guns that ASM produced originally for the 2nd gens.
This contract was prematurely terminated by Colt.
Hence, ASM sold these Walkers with Colt markings on the open market.
Prices for the latter variants/sub-variants are usually significantly higher than the first one.
Long Johns Wolf

 

[Smokerr]

Keep in mind any decent machinist can make the replacement parts needed like screws, wedges, triggers , hammers, etc for these obsolete models.

How many machinists would even take a fiddly job like that let alone on a gun?

Gun fixers yes, professional hobbyists maybe, regular machinist? They would laugh you out of the shop. Sure they can do it, but they won't.

 

[M. De Land]

How many machinists would even take a fiddly job like that let alone on a gun?

Gun fixers yes, professional hobbyists maybe, regular machinist? They would laugh you out of the shop. Sure they can do it, but they won't.

Sure they will if your willing to pay their hourly rates , especially small machine shops. Expensive for sure but certainly available with a bit of search.

 

[Jappo]

Sure they will if your willing to pay their hourly rates , especially small machine shops. Expensive for sure but certainly available with a bit of search.

They have to tool up for the part. Then comes the hardening of the part. Should be around 100 bucks or so.
I used to have a lathe and mill. Everything necessary to make my own parts for obsolete antique engines. Especially a good set of files.

 

[45D]

I think you'd be much better off buying a new Uberti for a few bucks more than a possibly cheaper (depending on what else is wrong with it) out of production ASM. Most 'smiths these days won't work on anything but current made cap guns.

Mike