Barrel Markings on a Contemporary English Trade Gun??

[Captjoel]

Anyone know whose shop this trade gun came out of?

 

[waksupi]

I don't know, but some durned fool put the lock on the wrong side of the gun!

 

[TFoley]

I've never seen a stamp like that before - although it has the air of being somewhat like a fleu-de-Lys found on some French arms

I'm intrigued to learn why you think it might be English. Do tell.

Please remove the barrel from the stock so that we can see the UK-mandatory proof marks.

 

[user 53846]

Looks like Centermarks old barrel marking.

 

[TFoley]

Looks like Centermarks old barrel marking.

Care to enlarge on that for us, please?

Is there any connection to this post from the past? Centermark Fusil

 

[TFoley]

Anyone know whose shop this trade gun came out of?

Some full-length pics - taken horizontally, would be good. And is it really a leftie?

 

[springfield art]

Some full-length pics - taken horizontally, would be good. And is it really a leftie?

I'd think it'd have to be a lefty; in the old days, you'd flip the "negative" on a photo and confuse everyone!

 

[springfield art]

I've never seen a stamp like that before - although it has the air of being somewhat like a fleu-de-Lys found on some French arms

I'm intrigued to learn why you think it might be English. Do tell.

Please remove the barrel from the stock so that we can see the UK-mandatory proof marks.

Yeah, that's mos' def' a Frenchie mark.

 

[Rock Home Isle]

I don't know, but some durned fool put the lock on the wrong side of the gun!

Noticed that right off…

 

[Captjoel]

.I noted this is a contemporary copy of an ENGLISH Trade gun. Looks like similar guns made for the Hudson Bay Co. and it is a Lefty. I am trying to find out any info about its manufacture for a friend. The only markings are those on the barrel in the picture. Thank you

 

[TFoley]

.I noted this is a contemporary copy of an ENGLISH Trade gun. Looks like similar guns made for the Hudson Bay Co. and it is a Lefty. I am trying to find out any info about its manufacture for a friend. The only markings are those on the barrel in the picture. Thank you

Well, Sir, if you'd read my link, you would have seen that it was made by a small-time American gunsmith backaways who had now either hung up his hammer or passed on. That's all I can note, apart from the fact that it is/was a very fine quality piece.

 

[beardedhorse]

I have left hand flintlock Fusil de Chase or Tulle with possibly same touch mark. Would be nice to see it larger and full length view of trade gun. Mine has a 15 1/2' pull and I need to shorten it by 2 inches but finial or top of butt plate on comb will be a challenge to inlet when shortened.

 

[Captjoel]

These are the only 2 other pictures I have of this gun. Thanks for all of this very useful information!

 

[Bushfire]

The fleur de lis is generally a sign of french.

Lock looks like a siler which is Germanic I believe.

I'm an idiot so do not take my word for it!