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Barrel twist for deer hunting

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Ricky Bobby

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I’m completely new to black powder and have a huge urge to get a flintlock rifle for some reason. Cool factor 100% in my eyes! I’m an avid whitetail hunter and definitely would like to experience harvesting a deer with one. I feel like a round ball would go along with entire experience as well but maybe I’m not thinking correctly? Are conical bullets something I should highly consider? I’m not needing or expecting to shoot a long distance … 50 to 75 yards with iron sights are my expectations. So with that said, what twist rate would you all recommend? Would you go slow twist and all in for round balls or would you try finding something in a medium twist rate to have best of both worlds and possibly be able to shoot conical bullets too? I don’t want multiple rifles so that’s definitely not the answer I want to hear.
 
Welcome from the Ozark mountains.
I would chose a 50 caliber with a 1 in 48 twist, which will do just fine with patched round ball and conical's. The reason being is 1 in 48 is a compromise twist to be able to shoot both with good accuracy and 50 caliber supplies are much more common and available. A 50 caliber hole and good shot placement will take any game in North America.
 
getz 1-72 .50, green mountain 1-70 .50 , bobby hoyt 1-56 .50 or gain twist , rice 1-66
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green mtn
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hoyt 1-56
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hoyt 1-56
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hoyt gain twist
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all twist can make great groups if you take the time to work up good loads all the above are round bottom but the green mtn is square bottom
even a traditions 1-66 can be made to shoot well if the right load is found
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100yrds traditions Kentucky Kit rifle sight in
 
A 50 is a good choice and is well proven on deer. I suggest a slower twist of 1:56 to 1:66. That will be a good ball shooter. I suggest staying with the ball for several reasons. First, it's absolutely adequate and is capable of good accuracy, especially in the slower twist rates. Second, it's more economical to shoot and you will find that the great majority of local shooters and clubs will be mainly ball oriented and those are the people you want to get in with. The enjoyment of shooting these guns and associating with other shooters goes way beyond deer hunting.
 
I have settled on the .54 as my big game caliber. I have flint rifles with 1-56, 1-66, and 1-72 twist rates. They all shoot very well, but the 1-72 likes 105 gr 2F where the others like 90 gr 2F. I'd rather not have to use 105 gr. Not sure if it's only the slower twist or something else in the barrel that creates that much "hunger" for powder.

Regarding your question on a barrel that would possibly shoot both PRB and conicals:

My Pedersoli Rocky Mountain Hawken (percussion) and the Pedersoli Frontier (AKA Cabelas Blue Ridge), available in flint or percussion, shot both types very well in .54 with 1-65 twist and rather shallow square groove rifling. In my case it was very short conicals. The Buffalo Ball-et and the Hornady Great Plains...neither of which are in production anymore in .54. I would suspect that a short .54 Minie would fill the bill as well. Only hollow base conicals worked for me in those two guns. Solid base tumbled.

Now, all that said, I've killed quite a few whitetails with both PRB and conicals. I came to the conclusion that for my kind of shorter range hunting generally under 100 yards and really under 75, the conical is unnecessary. A lot more cost and recoil for no added killing power, on average. So, I've been using PRB exclusively in my .54s for over a decade now. No regrets.
 
Yes, avoid the 48-inch twist. Everyone knows you can't shoot accurately with a T/C Haken rifled 48. Those who claim they can are just BSing. Besides Sam and Jake rifled all their Hawkins 1:48, but they didn't know what they were doing. Just ask those who know what a real round ball twist should be.
 
Twist rate is over rated, 1-48 to 1-72 will work great. Calibre 40-72 all work. Your ability to place the shot will have more effect than anything else.
 
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