Bought my first two guns ever!

[nzweers]

Hi there, new here, impressive forum!

I know nothing about weapons. I live in Holland and just bought my first two guns in Germany and would like to ask if I did alright or overpaid... It was an auction :hmm: Thanks in advance!!!

First one was 251 euro, 120cm long and kaliber 18 or 19.

Second one was 268 euro, 41cm long and 12mm kaliber.

Some weird stamps and numbers for the experts:

Thank you for your time!! :bow:

 

[cynthialee]

Right on. I do not know their value but they look nice enough. Especially the pistol.
Get them checked out by a competent gunsmith familiar with black powder firearms before you decide to load and shoot them.

If they are in shooting condition then get some shooting supplies after you have spent some time reading up on the topic.
I can think of no better resource than this very forum. If you have questions the folks around here will be happy to help.

Welcome to the sport, and make some smoke!

 

[azmntman]

Looks like you did very well VERY WELL (unless thy are India replica's). Whats the Euro vs dollar ratio these days?

 

[jamesthomas]

Nice looking rifle and pistol. Also please convert your metric to standard please, you know in inches not millimeters, and its caliber :wink: .50 caliber .40 caliber? and in dollars. Thanks :grin: .

 

[bpd303]

251 Euro = 346.78 $
268 Euro = 370.27 $
Nico Welcome to the forum.
You did very well indeed. I would say the Jaeger Rifle would bring over $1000 US, can't even venture a guess on the pistol.

 

[Sean Gadhar]

lets see the long gun was " kaliber 18 or 19" so
0.7086614173236 or 0.7480314960638 Ok I'm fuzzy here :hmm: would that be about 11 gage? yes? price $346.78


The pistol at 12mm would be 0.4724409448824
Price $370.27

 

[Sean Gadhar]

:haha: Jinx!

 

[Patocazador]

That flintlock pistol is some kind of ornate - WOW!

I'd buy it in a heartbeat if I had the chance, especially at that price.

 

[nkbj]

Beautiful. Thank you for posting photos.
Are you going to be shooting them?

 

[nkbj]

Oh, what is the trigger guard on the long arm made of?

 

[nzweers]

Ah thanks guys! :thumbsup:

It's a great relief to see that the Jäger rifle (thanks wiki) is actually worth it's price as I was a bit doubtful after buying the pistol for a similar price. Let's hope the pistol is not an Indian replica as one suggested :shocked2: It was sold in the 'Historische Originale' section and sold by a dealer with positive reviews; 938 positive, 5 negative.

Sorry about all the euro/metric stats

As for shooting I think it would be great fun to shoot the rifle! That would be a project though And I'd have to find a range as firearms are pretty illegal in Holland, except for black powder that is.
The pistol is so pretty, I rather not risk damaging it.

Thanks for your replies!! Great info! :applause:

 

[nzweers]

Okay this is not good. I have heard that the pistol is likely a replica from Italy from about 1970. Could anyone confirm that?

I'm using my Pawn Stars knowledge here, but is perhaps the screw on the right here too modern?

 

[Wes/Tex]

Off hand I 'd say the pistol is probably a later Italian piece. We saw some of these type pistols come to the U.S. 30 to 40 years ago, or so. I don't know their actual origin or maker but a look through the lists of Italian proof marks shoiuld get you some information.

The jaeger is of the late flint/early percussion era. The over sized and ornately carved trigger guards were usually wood or horn, I've seen both. I can't tell from the photos if it's a converted flint gun or an originally percussion built piece. Close up photo of lock would help. Either way, it's certainly worth several times what you paid for it. Even if the pistol turns out to be not that old, this one covered your investment. Good job! :thumbsup:

 

[Fernando Keilty]

Hello everyone:

The gun is a modern replica: the decor is something I have not seen any original weapon: the numbers and stamps that have been photographed not correspond to what has been seen, the style is very ornate, to give greater importance ...

Affectionately. Fernando K

(Sorry for the translator)

 

[Ken Cormier]

Nice Jager have it checked out and if it is safe to shoot. Go for it. If the pistol is a newer Ital.shoot that also. Have fun and welcome to the forum.

 

[MacRob46]

The pistol is probably a replica. The "carving" on the stock looks more like it was "impressed" rather than carved. The decoration on the metal was not chiseled but rather cast in. Is that a hole in the barrel? Still the price was not bad and the Jaeger was an excellent buy.

 

[suzkat]

I don't know where they are from but those sure look like legit proof marks or someone went to a lot of trouble to make stamps to make them look legit. Love the Jaeger. Wish I could find one. My buddy just picked up a great one for $950. He was just inside the door at a gun show when a guy walked in with it and he immediately negotiated the purchase. Wish I had been there first.

 

[Alden]

The longun is definitely a nice arm and well worth the price. The pistol looks modern to me as well. However, if it is real, meaning that it is a shootable arm (and indications are it certainly is), I still think it is worth it IF you like the style. In other words, if you like it, and someone just made it, wouldn't you actually pay MORE than $370 for that flintlock?

You'd be lucky too and of course you would...

 

[Shine]

Horn

 

[tecum-tha]

The longgun is a good converted percussion rifle. Most likely of southern german or austrian origin. Is it rifled or smooth?
Good deal for Euro 251.
On that pistol, you have been screwed in my opinion. This is a modern non firing replica wall hanger. I would not even try to shoot that thing period.
I think you should have checked either bolk antiques or hermann historica catalogues when it comed to appearance of original pistols. Would have saved you some money. I would value the replica pistol at around Euro 50 or so max.