I think I have mentioned on the forum that I have a 54 cal T/C Hawken that I am redoing. The patchbox is brass (of course) and I am changing everything to steel. I was wondering how tough is the brownell bake on epoxy. I am thinking of bluing everything steel and using flat black epoxy on the patchbox. How do you think it will hold up?
Bownell bake-on epoxy
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I tried Brownells bake on epoxy paint on a cheap pot metal pistol and found it wore off very quickly. Plain black spray paint from Wallyworld was about as durable. I like Brownells but have found several of their products don't live up to their claims. :shake:
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I use "bake on" finishes in a professional capacity with all the correct equipment, including Mil-Spec oxides for prep, and encounter problems sometimes!
The real "bake on" stuff is a different animal all together.
The best stuff for the hobbyist that I have seen that does not require subsequent heating, is the Aluma-Hyde from Brownells.
The formula has been modified I believe, and if done properly is very durable.
You must prep the surface to the moon however. Bead/oxide blast, or good sanding, a thorough de-grease, and good spray techniques are required.
And last, but not least, do not even touch the sprayed part for 2 weeks. I am not joking, it will take that long to cure, no matter what anybody tells you. I use a paint "hardness tester", similar to a Rockwell hardness test, so this is fact.
Unless you use some nuclear bore cleaner, it will hold up great.
The bake on stuff really needs a pro install for durability.
K-G Guncote, if done properly, by the way, is about as durable as it gets. Brownells does sell it, but it is really for a pro. :thumbsup:
The real "bake on" stuff is a different animal all together.
The best stuff for the hobbyist that I have seen that does not require subsequent heating, is the Aluma-Hyde from Brownells.
The formula has been modified I believe, and if done properly is very durable.
You must prep the surface to the moon however. Bead/oxide blast, or good sanding, a thorough de-grease, and good spray techniques are required.
And last, but not least, do not even touch the sprayed part for 2 weeks. I am not joking, it will take that long to cure, no matter what anybody tells you. I use a paint "hardness tester", similar to a Rockwell hardness test, so this is fact.
Unless you use some nuclear bore cleaner, it will hold up great.
The bake on stuff really needs a pro install for durability.
K-G Guncote, if done properly, by the way, is about as durable as it gets. Brownells does sell it, but it is really for a pro. :thumbsup:
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Have you considered Birchwood-Casey's brass black? It is pretty durable, and can be easily touched up when necessary.
Brass Black would be good. If additional protection was desired it could be sprayed with glossy Clear Deft or one of the spray automotive Top Coats.
No, Clear Deft and the Top Coats aren't real tough but how much wear does the patchbox really get?
If a semi gloss coat is desired, the Deft also comes in Satin which gives a very soft non glossy finish.
No, Clear Deft and the Top Coats aren't real tough but how much wear does the patchbox really get?
If a semi gloss coat is desired, the Deft also comes in Satin which gives a very soft non glossy finish.
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What is done in the professional capacity, is that after correct sieve/mesh size aluminum oxide blast (Mil-spec for alloy), the components are phosphated (manganese).
This is what seperates the "men from the boys" when it comes to durability.
The manganese phosphate creates a bulletproof substrate.
This is what seperates the "men from the boys" when it comes to durability.
The manganese phosphate creates a bulletproof substrate.
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Greeting Coyote Joe,
If you are still interested in trying a polymer finish, I suggest Gun Kote, distributed by Ten Ring Precision in San Antonio, Texas.
You can find a web page on the NET. The owner is a long time personal friend, one of America's leading custom pistol gunsmiths, and a fine gentleman to do busines with.
Best regards and good shooting,
John L. Hinnant
If you are not an NRA Member, Why not? I am carrying your load.
If you are still interested in trying a polymer finish, I suggest Gun Kote, distributed by Ten Ring Precision in San Antonio, Texas.
You can find a web page on the NET. The owner is a long time personal friend, one of America's leading custom pistol gunsmiths, and a fine gentleman to do busines with.
Best regards and good shooting,
John L. Hinnant
If you are not an NRA Member, Why not? I am carrying your load.
Thanks for the info. My latest bakeon Epoxy job is still awaiting the owner's pickup! If I'd have known he was going to wait 3 weeks I would have left all the parts off all this time. I am thinking about dismantling to check for adhesion to other parts. Also for further curing. Soon as I do this, though, the owner will show up! :hatsoff:
