Brasilikilt's lock

[Roy]

Here's a couple pics of Brasilikilt's internal frizzen spring lock. :thumbsup:

and one more with the mainspring removed

Cool lock. The main spring rests on the frizzen spring. Probably over years of use this design slightly scored the frizzen spring and created the break.
Other than what you can see in the pics, this lock is in great shape. The springs(whats left) still have good tension and nothing is loose or worn.

 

[Roy]

Looking closer I have noticed that the frizzen has been re-soled, very neatly with three rivets and most likely brazed to hold it in place. I will see if I can get a good pic of this.

 

[Roy]

Here it is. In the top photo you can just make out a faint line. Top notch work.

 

[Brasilikilt]

Hey Roy

It certainly appears as though she's in good hands! :thumbsup:

Years ago when I got the rifle, my grandfather noticed the pins in the frizzen, I figured it was just how the lock was made and didn't think much of it. It was worth fixing back then and it's still worth fixing now.

The pics are great......it's always like me to be so interested in the things I wish I could do myself :haha:

 

[Packdog]

Great Pics! Thanks for posting. That's pretty interesting.

PD

 

[Roy]

I'll get some more detailed pics of it as I go along. :thumbsup:

 

[Roy]

Starting to look like something?

 

[Roy]

Last pics. Any questions?

(4 months pfffff! :hmm: I must be a cobbler :rotf: )

:v

 

[Erzulis boat]

Great work. :thumbsup:

How about some pics of the sliding safety's internal mechanism?

Does it engage the backside of the hammer or the tumbler? Does it also utilize a halfcock notch for the sear, or merely rely on the safety?

 

[Roy]

Just a sec and I'll get one! :grin:

 

[Roy]

It engages the cock while in half cock.

notice the second spring on the sear spring that engages the safety. The safety is slotted and pinned sort of a permanenent fixture to the lock plate.

 

[Java Man]

Its about time you got that lock fixed! How long have you had it......a week? :bow:

 

[Erzulis boat]

Thanks!!!

:thumbsup:

 

[Roy]

I know, I know, and it took a whole 3 hrs (maybe)to fix :shocked2:

 

[Roy]

The one thing I did find interesting about this lock is that the Main spring acts as the frizzen spring as well.

One question that I have is can anyone else here every remember handling one of these locks with the frizzen spring intact?

 

[Brasilikilt]

Its about time you got that lock fixed! How long have you had it......a week? :bow:

The local black powder gunsmith here was going to make me wait (at least) 4 months and charge me $100!!!
I must have mentioned that 100 times because the ridiculousness of it still baffles me! And to think, I almost went for it! :youcrazy:

Roy, it looks awesome, and I'm sure it shoots as good as the repairs look!
When I get it back I'll blast off a bunch of rounds through it to see how well the repairs hold up

Thanks Roy! :bow:

 

[Roy]

No problem :thumbsup: :grin:

 

[Zonie]

Roy: I haven't handled one of these locks.

I do have the book Pistols of the World by Claude Blair, THE VIKING PRESS, NEW YORK, Copyright 1968 LCCCN #68-19325.

Several good things to say about this book.
I found it at a Used Book Store and they only wanted $12 for it. It's hardcovered 9 X 12 book with LOTS of great photos of everything from Matchlocks thru the 1896 Broomhandle but most of it deals with the older guns we love.

My reason for mentioning this is in the back of this book are a number of exploded views of a Matchlock, Wheellock, Snaphance, Doglock, Miquelet Lock Flintlock and " The NOCK SCREWLESS FLINTLOCK" .
This Screwless Flintlock uses the Mainspring for the Frizzen spring. The Mainspring does not react directly with the Frizzen, it's load going thru a "pivoted lever" to provide the necessary force.

If you think it will do you any good, I can scan and post the picture.

Zonie

 

[Roy]

I have a freind in Ohio that has one of the screwless locks, I really need to make it that trip one day. Anyway the lock has already been mailed off, but who can refuse a pic? :grin:
Thanks! :v :bow:

 

[Zonie]

This is the picture of the exploded Nocks Screwless Lock.
The picture is from the book mentioned by me above.

Like the lock you posted about, this lock uses the internal Mainspring to keep the frizzen (hammer) closed.
The Mainspring does not touch the frizzen, but its upper end pushes against the transfer bar (k) which has a roller in it. This roller is what pushes on the frizzen.
The transfer bar pivots on pin (m).

All of the parts are retained by the locking plate (o).

To get a better picture right click on the picture and select Copy to File.
The picture is a JPG so your computer should be able to open it.