Brass Frame Remingtons In The Old West?

[Walkabout]

Yup, at least according to a movie I saw a couple nights ago. One of the bad guys was carrying be brand new shiny brass frame '58 Remington. Don't they research these things?

 

[Sam squanch]

They like the brass frames so they “pop” on screen. And they are cheaper for the prop company to buy.

 

[springfield art]

Yeah, movies aren't always made with the idea of pleasing picky re-enactors!

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Yeah, movies aren't always made with the idea of pleasing picky re-enactors!

Or historians.....
Hollywood is basically lazy. IF you banned the phrase, "with all due respect" all new programming would lose half of their dialogue...

LD

 

[Blitz]

Or historians.....
Hollywood is basically lazy. IF you banned the phrase, "with all due respect" all new programming would lose half of their dialogue...

LD

I be;ieve, w a d, rf, you are correct. It is getting harder as time goes on for me to enjoy most movies unless it is from before I was born , and that covers a lot of time, Being a history buff makes it even more difficult.
Even mis pronounced words be come de rigure and people willingly argue abou stuff withpout having knowledge of the subject. Ever since the word forte was miss pronounced in a movei it has taken on alife of its own , There was another word about 20 or possibly more by now that suffered the same fate from misspronunciation in a popular movie.

I guess we all from time to time fall prey to thinking what we see represented is the fact , otherwise how could a politician ever get re elected or even first elected, because the truth is certainly noy thier forte.

Blit

 

[springfield art]

Movies etc. are generally entertainment for a mass market; if you made only 'perfect' films they'd be boring documentaries. And go broke in the process. The newer Westerns are much better than all the old "B" market stuff where every single guy in town is sporting a low-slung, leg-tiring holster and gun. Try running around all day with a gun belt slung low under the hip line. Can you say, "tiring"?

 

[nick_1]

Pale rider is awesome. its set in 1848 but Clint is using an 1858 Remington with a cartridge conversion....

 

[leadhoarder]

Just be glad that they do not have antigun actors that shoot and kill their crew. Wait a minute..............

 

[nick_1]

really funny how bunched up all the snowflakes got over a comedian making fun of their jesus....

 

[Mikekj]

Pale rider is awesome. its set in 1848 but Clint is using an 1858 Remington with a cartridge conversion....

What leads you to believe it portrays 1848?
They were talking of banning hydraulic mining, which did happen in the 1880’s.
And hydraulic gold mining really didn’t start until the 1850’s.
I’m thinking it portrays the late 1870’s or early 1880’s, which his Remington conversion would be correct.

 

[nick_1]

opening scene they tell you its 1840 something

 

[Secesh]

A movie that comes to mind where they made a better effort at historical accuracy in the weapons department is “The Long Riders”.

If they could have only convinced David Carradine to cut his hair.

 

[Mikekj]

opening scene they tell you its 1840 something

What year is Pale Rider set in?


Plot. The film opens in the countryside outside the fictional town of Lahood, California, and takes place sometime in the 1870s or early 1880s(based on remarks in the film about outlawing hydraulic mining).
https://absolutewestern.fandom.com/...=Plot,film about outlawing hydraulic mining).

 

[Pratt]

Well we all loved Chuck Connors in the Rifleman . He used an 1892 Winchester in 1870. Did he not? Must be aliens from space left it.

 

[tenngun]

Well we all loved Chuck Connors in the Rifleman . He used an 1892 Winchester in 1870. Did he not? Must be aliens from space left it.

Hey John Wayne in The Comanchicheros set in the Republic of Texas, before 1846, Wayne has a Colt Peacemaker

 

[Pratt]

Yep , we are just invoking our suspension of disbelief, and go on.

 

[tenngun]

It’s not like most of these stories are really relatable to history.
Space operas vs what real space flight is like
Or James Bond ( classic Cold War ones) were compared to real spy life
While there has been stories like Long Riders or assignation of Jessie James or all the Alamos were based on real events, were still a big bucket of fantasy

 

[Dale Lilly]

Back to the Future was working overtime.

 

[2 shots]

He used an 1892 Winchester in 1870. Did he not? Must be aliens from space left it.

sadly not even a winchester , i read somewhere it was made from an ' el tigre' ....say it isnt so.

 

[Des52]

sadly not even a winchester , i read somewhere it was made from an ' el tigre' ....say it isnt so.

They had three, two Winchesters and a El-Tigre. The El-Tigre was the one in the saddle scabbard and tossed on the ground and other things they didn't want to do to the Winchesters.