CLOSED Brown Bess ~ See Revised Listing.

[flashphoto1945]

I recently restored this vintage reproduction. I am not sure on the make but the consensus here seems to be that it is an early Pedersoli. The stock was completely refinished and restored. The brass polished up and the barrel and lock carefully brought back to life. The springs are in EXCELLENT condition. The bore is in excellent condition, with little to no pitting or issues that I can see. The ball/patch rams home very smooth and easy. I have test fired this Bess a few times and she is a straight shooter and I would have no hesitation at all using this for elk or deer hunting, or grouse, pheasant, turkey or waterfowl. She is the perfect smoothbore for someone who reenacts and wants a solid, working flintlock without all of the glamour and fuss. This old girl is a workhorse, not a show pony.

She comes as shown. The barrel length is 37", overall length is 53". LOP is 14".

I am asking $1200, plus shipping. Not interested in trades, sorry.

 

[William Hagewood]

Beautiful restoration work!

 

[User_Dan]

Pretty obvious a pedersoli lock....

Can you post up a photo of your username and date next to it?

 

[Columbus]

Not Miroku

 

[flashphoto1945]

Pretty obvious a pedersoli lock....

Can you post up a photo of your username and date next to it?

Seems too inexpensive for the quality of the piece....questionable in my mind

I don’t think it is. Pedersoli is pretty solid about branding their work and this musket has NO makers marks anywhere on it. The only thing was the odd two digit number on some of the parts.

 

[flashphoto1945]

Pretty obvious a pedersoli lock....

Can you post up a photo of your username and date next to it?

I will post as requested later tonight when I get back home. I’ve actually revise the price to a more appropriate one after some private messages saying the same thing you did.

 

[flashphoto1945]

Pretty obvious a pedersoli lock....

Can you post up a photo of your username and date next to it?

As requested.

 

[RockRash]

Can you post a picture of the pitting in the bore?

 

[flashphoto1945]

Can you post a picture of the pitting in the bore?

I’ll try, but no promises. It’s not really pitted so much as just needs a good scrubbing. I’ll try to do that sometime tomorrow.

 

[RockRash]

I’ll try, but no promises. It’s not really pitted so much as just needs a good scrubbing. I’ll try to do that sometime tomorrow.

Thanks.

 

[Conquerordie]

The Japanese Bess's had this odd angled look to the bow of the triggerguards. Did you straighten it? If not, I agree it's a Pedersoli and not Japanese. Nice job bringing her back to life!

 

[Tumbledown]

The early Japanese ones had a flattened trigger guard because Miroku copied every detail of the example they were given, right down to the flattened trigger guard. Unless the guard was reworked or replaced, those people who looked at it are wrong.

Back in the early 70s, parts were being made and imported, with stocks and assembly done here by Navy Arms. It is quite possible this is one of those.

 

[Walkabout]

I know Brown Bess bore size could vary historically, were they ever .720? Thanks

 

[MAPMFF]

Where it has been shortened that would make a nice piece for one reenacting as an officer to carry.

 

[sturmkatze]

I don’t think it is. Pedersoli is pretty solid about branding their work and this musket has NO makers marks anywhere on it. The only thing was the odd two digit number on some of the parts.

Without being argumentative , it’s a Pedersoli. Miroku used “Tower” on their locks and pedersoli says “Grice 1762”. Not that big a deal.

 

[Tumbledown]

Without being argumentative , it’s a Pedersoli. Miroku used “Tower” on their locks and pedersoli says “Grice 1762”. Not that big a deal.

There were ones in the 70s that were not Pedersoli or Miroku. Navy Arms built a few with imported locks and barrels.

 

[flashphoto1945]

Can you post a picture of the pitting in the bore?

Turns out there is little to no pitting. It looked like there was after a quick cleaning after I restored it but I had not looked at the bore since test firing and cleaning. I think the few rounds that I sent through it scrubbed out what grime my brushed didn't because the bore is very nice indeed. I tried to get a couple of pictures but it was shiny enough that it was difficult to get a decent photograph because of all of the reflection going on in there. So, I revised the listing to better reflect the condition of the bore.

 

[flashphoto1945]

I know Brown Bess bore size could vary historically, were they ever .720? Thanks

The bore on this particular Bess measures exactly .734" So she is a .72 cal.

 

[sturmkatze]

There were ones in the 70s that were not Pedersoli or Miroku. Navy Arms built a few with imported locks and barrels.

That is a pedersoli lock. They don’t fit the mortise on a Miroku. @FlinterNick

 

[flashphoto1945]

That is a pedersoli lock. They don’t fit the mortise on a Miroku. @FlinterNick

I have closed this thread and relisted the musket on a new listing.