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evan

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PLEASE, CAN ANYONE TELL ME THEIR LOAD FOR A .50 CAL.BUCK AND BALL SET-UP.
QUESTION: WILL IT BE SAFE TO USE IN A LYMAN GPR?
IS THERE ANY ADVANTAGE TO USING THIS SET-UP?

I WILL BE HUNTING WHITE TAIL AND /OR HOG IN HEAVILY WOODED AREAS IN FLORIDA. MY MAXIMUM DISTANCE MIGHT BE NO MORE THAN 50-YARDS. (CAN'T SEE ANY FURTHER IN THE SWAMPS) I'M KIND OF A NEWBEE ONLY BEEN HUNTING BLACK POWDER 2-YEARS AND I HAVE MUCH TO LEARN. Thanks
 
Mornin evan
This is what 490 balls shootin 60 grains of rs at a steel swing plate at 50 yards looks like, That's a dime in the center, bottom,

shot balls
 
Evan: I would not bother shooting buck and ball, even in Florida. Yes, the deer are small, but that size rifle will deliver a good expanding round lead ball at those ranges and kill very well. I do think a .50 is small to be using on wild boar, based on my own experiences. If your gun will shoot a short bullet, like the REAL slugs, I would recommend using that instead of a PRB for boar.

Basically, to give you an answer, you would load a .490 PRB in the gun, following it with some buck shot, probably .24" in diameter, to get 4 or 6 buckshot on top of the ball. Then seat a over shot card, or felt wad on top of the buckshot, to keep if from moving in the barrel. Some people get away with simply pushing some leaves down the barrel on top of the shot. That small shot is not going to do much beyond 20 yds for you in wild boar, and at that range, they will hit so close to the PRB wound that they won't make much of a difference. Either your PRB delivers a killing wound, or the boar runs off wounded, to die somewhere else, or to recover over days and months. If you use the larger sized buck shot, you can't get two of them to seat side by side in that barrel, and they will be even less effective, if that is possible. Just remember, the larger the shot, and the more shot you load, the more pressure is created, and the more felt recoil the gun will have when fired. I think, personally, that buck and ball loads make much more sense in 16 and 12 ga. smoothbores. Even in a 20 bore, its hard to find a load that does much to improve the killing powder of a single round ball. In the 20 ga., the round ball weighs 3/4 oz.; in the 16 ga. it weighs an ounce; and in the 12 ga., it weighs 1 1/8 oz! In your rifle, that round ball weights about 4 tenths of an ounce. It is no cupcake, but I think it will perform better on both deer and boar without the buckshot in front of it.
 
You are not going to get any kind of accuracy with shot in a rifled barrel, and a lot of states have rules against more than one projectile when deer hunting. Just get a good accurate rd ball load worked up and use it. You don't need any more than that with good shot placement.
 
Florida does indeed have such a regulation. It states:

Hunting deer with a muzzleloader:
Muzzleloading guns firing single bullets must be .40-caliber. Muzzleloading guns firing two or more balls must be 20-gauge or larger.

If you want to peruse the Florida regs, they are on line at Florida FWC Regulations

Enjoy!
 
Porkchop.......I'm thinking (just thinking) of the buck & ball load for general gun here in Florida not for our short 3-day muzzleloading "quota permit" season on public land which has been over as of this post.

You bring up a good point.

Since I am retired public safety from a large major city here-in Florida and try to obey the law at all cost I have since checked with FWC and during general gun they can't find a problem with my load as long as the principel projectile is of .40 cal. or more which mine is a .50 cal Lyman gpr.

If I still got it wrong please let me know...
But thanks for the tip.......

Evan.... Brooksville, Florida.
 
Buck and Ball doesn't work well for hunting, even out of a smoothbore. Just stick with hitting what you aim at with a .490 round ball and you'll have no need for the "buck".
 
The regs I was reading were the general regs - not specific to the muzzleloading season.
 
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