Building ME a NW Trade Gun ! :)

[Rob M.]

Making ramrod today ...1/2" hickory hand tapered down the 5/16" , brass tip added , pinned on .

 

[Rob M.]

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[Relic shooter]

You know for sure these are off a trading gun?

Nothing is 100% sure these days but they look identical in style to those I've observed on original Trade Guns.
Would also be fine on a fowling piece.

 

[Capt. Jas.]

Nothing is 100% sure these days but they look identical in style to those I've observed on original Trade Guns.
Would also be fine on a fowling piece.

Yes I agree and they are made the exact same way yet I've never seen an original trade gun or fowling piece that took a ramrod that size. Of course never say never. Most fowling pieces were no bigger than 5/16 at the entry pipe. Some were lucky to clear that. A very interesting set of pipes for sure!

 

[Relic shooter]

Yes I agree and they are made the exact same way yet I've never seen an original trade gun or fowling piece that took a ramrod that size. Of course never say never. Most fowling pieces were no bigger than 5/16 at the entry pipe. Some were lucky to clear that. A very interesting set of pipes for sure!

Most early European & British mfg. hunting guns I've owned have similar sized ramrods to handle their bigger bore guns, they held up well & made loading easier.
As you know most Trade guns were imported from abroad.
Most American mfg. guns of that era were much smaller caliber & thusly had much smaller dia. ramrods.

 

[Khufu]

finally got the lock and trigger for my left hand trade build. stock and barrel on order.

 

[Khufu]

Making ramrod today ...1/2" hickory hand tapered down the 5/16" , brass tip added , pinned on .

are you leaving the tip that big? and with that much taper? is that typical for a trade gun?

 

[Rob M.]

are you leaving the tip that big? and with that much taper? is that typical for a trade gun?

Yep , its done . Its a tapered ramrod .

 

[Khufu]

the stock I ordered has a 3/8" ramrod channel and hole and is pre inlet for the Colerain 1" octagon to round barrel, with no other inlets
I hope I have not ordered something that will not work

 

[Rob M.]

the stock I ordered has a 3/8" ramrod channel and hole and is pre inlet for the Colerain 1" octagon to round barrel, with no other inlets
I hope I have not ordered something that will not work

No bud , your right on the money ... 3/8" ramrod channel is what me , and everyone , does nowadays . ..the originals were 5/16" ramrod or bit smaller , bit skinny ....barrel on original English trade guns 1" at the breech ....your right on the money

 

[Khufu]

so, I should start with a 7/16" rammer, and turn it down to 3/8" leaving a flared tip?

 

[Khufu]

the 2 brass pipes I found are 3/8", I assume I trisect the space between the muzzle and entry and place them so there is equal space between the muzzle and center of the first pipe, that's equal to the space between the centers of the 2 pipes, and equal to the space between the entry and center of the bottom pipe? ( I think I confused myself)

 

[Fatboyz]

Rob do you do a hot water heat on your barrel for the browning?

 

[Khufu]

there were not any pictures that showed ramrod pipe locations and all the pics I googled are randomly placed

 

[Rob M.]

so, I should start with a 7/16" rammer, and turn it down to 3/8" leaving a flared tip?

There are a couple ways to do it bud . You pick which one you like . I just happen to like the tapered ramrod because it works very well and it looks great BUT ...it is a chore , they take me 2.5 hours to make . The other way is to just buy a 3/8 hickory rod then put a threaded tip on one end , for attachments , and a flared tip on the other end for ramming ....I'll post pics for ya bud ....

 

[Rob M.]

I just use a torch ....I heat up

Rob do you do a hot water heat on your barrel for the browning?

The barrel and apply the browning ...

 

[Rob M.]

so, I should start with a 7/16" rammer, and turn it down to 3/8" leaving a flared tip?

Some pics for ya ...see which you like . you might just do the easy one first but thats up to you ... The black and white pic is neat as its an original 18 century trade gun. The others are guns I've made ... They all use 3/8" ramrod pipes and channel

 

[Rob M.]

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so, I should start with a 7/16" rammer, and turn it down to 3/8" leaving a flared tip?

Ramrod with tips added... I start with a 1/2" rod but thats just my preference . That big tip out there is great for tamping down ball or was

 

[Rob M.]

the 2 brass pipes I found are 3/8", I assume I trisect the space between the muzzle and entry and place them so there is equal space between the muzzle and center of the first pipe, that's equal to the space between the centers of the 2 pipes, and equal to the space between the entry and center of the bottom pipe? ( I think I confused myself)

Yeah , sounds like you have the concept. If you want to call me bud thats fine . might be easier for me to explain a few things ... 740-343-3703

 

[Rob M.]

the 2 brass pipes I found are 3/8", I assume I trisect the space between the muzzle and entry and place them so there is equal space between the muzzle and center of the first pipe, that's equal to the space between the centers of the 2 pipes, and equal to the space between the entry and center of the bottom pipe? ( I think I confused myself)

LOL ! .....you have the idea bud , you got it . Ok ,first thing you do is figure where you want your first ramrod pipe to go . What I do , its just my thing , is my front sight , my barrel lug and the frontpipe are all out there and need to be set right . I'll post a pic ....when the pipe is where you want it you just measure the distance to the hole in the forearm , and for a gun with only two pipes , mark the center of that distance then put the pipe centered on that make , mark your pipes now , front and back , this helps with inletting them ...