Cabelas Hawkens and Lyman GPR what is the difference?

[onesonek]

I have a Lyman Trade rifle in flint and a Cabelas Hawken in percussion. They are fairly similar. As stated the Hawken has a patchbox, it also has a double set trigger. The Trade rifle has a single trigger. They are very similar in quality. The Trade rifle does have a nice fixed traditional dovetailed rear sight instead of the cheesy adjustable one that the Hawken has. Both are excellent shooters.

Are the hammers interchangable between the 2 rifle mentioned?
Dave

 

[Trot]

Both rifles use the same locks, so parts from one lock would be interchangeable with the other.

 

[onesonek]

Cool, and thanks! I picked up a use Cabelas Sporterized Hawken recently in a trade. I am looking for a second hammer to alter slightly,so it works with a the Mag Spark system, so should I choose the option of using a 209 primer. I know, it's not traditional, but in some situations, I look more at need/want and function more.
Anyhow, being the case of same hammer's are used, Lyman has them a bit less costly than from Cabela's.

 

[jethro224]

Welcome to the Forum. :hatsoff:

Without knowing how much experience you have with your traditional muzzleloaders... it sounds like you've been reading too many magazine ads.

If you are new to traditional muzzleloading I would suggest you give the original setup using #11 caps a fair try before you spend the extra $ for that 209 setup.
If you have been experiencing problems with misfires using the #11 caps there is most likely an underlying issue that is NOT the caps. The members here can give you good advice to cure any problems you are having. :thumbsup:

 

[ebiggs1]

Isn't this the Flintlock forum? Or, did I miss something.......again? :hmm:

 

[jethro224]

Isn't this the Flintlock forum? Or, did I miss something.......again? :hmm:

Yes it is. Maybe you did. :idunno: Good point tho.

This is a flint topic in the flint forum but a new guy, onesonek, added a percussion question... :surrender:

onesonek,
The members here can give you good advice to cure any problems you are having. BUT you should post the question in the percussion forum.

 

[ebiggs1]

You know me; I am a little slow and easily confused.

 

[BrownBear]

I already have a Cabelas Hawkens. I got it for Christmas. I was just wondering if it was made differently than the Lyman (Lesser quality).

Same factory for both, with differences in some parts and others interchangeable.

I have a Cabelas Hawken version with the double triggers, patch box and hooked butt. Triggers and locks are interchangeable with comparable models of Lymans.

The Lyman GPR barrel is held on with two wedges, while both the Lyman Trade Rifle and the Cabelas Hawken are held on with one. I don't have a Trade Rifle on hand right now to compare, but I'd be really surprised if the barrels weren't interchangeable with the Cabelas/Investarms, perhaps with a minor change to the underlug, perhaps not.

Gotta say a lotta guys stake their religion on a 1:60 or slower being inherently more accurate with round balls than a 1:48, calling the 1:48 some type of compromise. IF there's an accuracy loss it's probably due to their use of the wrong patch for shallower grooves, rather than twist rate. The original Hawken rifles were 1:48 twist and they were celebrated far and wide for their superior accuracy.

Lotta other quality guns back then were 1:48, too. In my own guns I've found shallow-grooved 1:48 barrels a little pickier about the patches, but in no way less accurate than slow twists.

Every time I hear a guy raising his nose at 1:48, I hear everything else he says in a lesser light. Inexperience is what I see rather than expertise. :idunno: