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Alden said:
tenngun said:
Corn meal can be rubbed in to hair then brushed out leaving it 'clean and silky'...

Your parents tell you that too!? What is this, 1001 (Made Up) Uses For Grits! Sure ain't for human consumption. Although at that point guess you could fry it up without adding any more grease...

:barf:

PS: Who's fitting in that "shower"?
Learned it from a Navajo man in my home town. Didn't realy start eating grits till I went in the navy. His wife used to cook a killer bread from blue corn meal, made in to a super thin tortilla cooked on a hot smooth rock greaed with sheep brains....good eats Alden.
He taught me a lot of outdoor skills, including the use of yucca root for soap and ash just mixxed with sheep fat. I did tell my dad about the corn meal 'shampoo'. He grew up poor in the depression, said his sisters used to do that tween real shampooings in the winter.
Although I had ancestors that fought on the right side of TWBS my dad was a (whispered) yankee :redface: Oh well we all have our cross to bare :haha: He grew up in wisconsin. Try the corn meal trick, it works.
Its a moot point now for me since God blessed me with the great man hairdo...You know Elijah,Ceaser,Ben Franklin,Bozo.
 
So I have to chuckle at the claims that people were filthy dirty back then. I think this notion comes from the modern assumption that if you don't have running water its difficult to wash and therefore people didn't bother. Its true that we don't have very many descriptions of people bathing back then, but there is plenty of written evidence that people did not ignore their hygiene and cleanliness, they just achieved it in different ways.

"Bathing" was swimming, or at least hanging out in a larger body of water. Washing was done as others have described above and I can tell you from personal experience that a basin and wash rag go a long was in keeping a body clean. I have used a tin basin and kettle of warm water at events a gotten as clean as you would in a modern shower. The trickiest part is finding the privacy. In my modern life when I have lived for weeks or months without indoor plumbing I have used the same practice with wash pans and buckets filled at the pump and heated on the stove (or left cold). So the practice has worked long term for me too. It works just fine in a modern house too and helps with water conservation if you are into that sort of thing.

If you piece together the many historical references it becomes clear that common hygiene practices involved a few commonalities.

The first is not getting dirt on you in the first place. They left sleeves rolled down and collar fixed to protect from sun and dirt. Women and men wore linen caps to keep their hair cleaner. Hair could also be cleaned with hair powder (either corn meal, flour or the proper kind- which I think was made from meal or flour anyway)

The second involves changing your body linen. This seems to be the big component for hygiene for 18th century people. Everyone but the most destitute would have owned more than one shirt and "shifted" their underclothes as needed and as their means allowed. Shirts and shifts were made for heavy washing, and laundered frequently.

Next is spot cleaning, sponge-bathing or washing up. Instead of full bathing, the common practice was washing just what was dirty... hands, face, and all the rest as required.

A lastly and most uncommonly the occasional full dip in the river or a good dousing with a bucket of water over the head. This was thought healthful because of the effects of the cold water on the skin and body.

So, one could spot wash, pare nails, wash hands, wash face, change into a clean shirt, powder and brush out your hair... and they're fresh as a daisy and have achieved it in a simple and authentic way.

I think we need to move away from the notion that people in the past were dirty and unwashed. It is perfectly possible to get and stay clean even without modern plumbing, we know early American cultural expectations valued cleanliness and good hygiene, and there are plenty of references from the historical record that describe washing practices.
 
Whew, There is a non pc thing to write. "your a better man then I am Gunga Din"... You know some folks think if they take a pill, from the doctor or the health food store, it will make them lose weight or keep their heart strong with out exercise. Maybe perfume is just a type of pill. You know "why wash if I can just slap on 'eue de nonstinker' :haha:
 
Will Penny: "Well sure. You have a real good one when you finish the shove up north, like at the hotel in Alfred. Then one or two in the winter, if you don't catch your death. Then a couple in the spring and one more good one before you start the shove up again. The rest depends on what kind of water you hit on the drive. Well, what's wrong with that? That's as much as anybody!"
 
Really? If it's that obvious and easy why can't the French do it!?

They have soap, running water, and heated water, plus they are rumored to have invented the bidet, (although the first reference to one is in 1710 in Italy), yet neither the French nor the Italians are known for their bathing habits today.

LD

And I'm talking about European Italians, not Italian Americans (Hey I've been to Italy; I'm a witness)
 
Having been stationed at Panzer Kaserne in BRD, where we had a lot of "working class" French "female civilian hires", I can tell you that "UNWASHED for a week body", doused with cheap cologne or perfume is NOT "very delightful" to be downwind from!!! =====> "YETCH" is the word for that experience.
(CHUCKLE.)

yours, satx
 
Yeah, maybe some thought I was kidding or criticizing the great and progressive French, our stalwart allies, but apparently ablutions don't come naturally to some so let's not presume it is an historical fact that people were sweet and clean... Smells fishy to me!

OK Napoleon, why Corsica?
 
Even a "clean" body marinated in cheap cologne is hard to take. I've had customers come in so pickled in their cologne that you could smell 'em coming before the door would open. :haha:
 
Alden said:
OK Napoleon, why Corsica?
Why not?

As an aside...Ma Williams used to tell a delightful story of an old gentleman who attended the church she grew up in, who seemed to have an aversion to soap but a strong liking for vanilla extract! :shocked2: :rotf:
 
Wes, sorry, we should have been more clear... Corsica isn't just the rusty Chevy on blocks in your front lawn, it's an island that's either Italian, free, or Vichy French and not exactly an American Mecca, Modina, nor even Jerusalem.
 
That's O.K. I was just standing in for Napoleone di Buonaparte! :wink: :blah:
 
No problemo Senor Wes, I know le grits are giving vous la insomnia and sleep deprivation can take itsa toll...

Cleanliness is next to Godliness. When people ask me what those are I first campily tell them, especially to the kids, that my bandolier charges are perfume bottles because people didn't bath very often and smelled back then. I think we have modern-day examples of this if only the best and the brightest who clean the offices after hours...
 
We allow diabetics to take their meds at rendys, we allow folks to wear their glasses etc. Folks still take their "pressure meds" A shower is just a way of staying healthy. And less gamey

I made a shower with 7 ft wide canvas and made a frame that is 7.5 foot tall and 30 inches square. We used a solar shower for a while, but then at a rendy near lovingston VA, I saw a guy using a plastic garden sprayer . The head was bent in a "u" and he just filled the tank with warm water and pumped a few times for pressure. Works great. A two gallon sprayer holds sufficient water and has done me well for years.
 
Now there's an idea...seriously, i'd never thought of a pump sprayer as a portable shower. Just keep it out of sight and hose off the big clods! Beats poling between the snakes in the bayou! :thumbsup:
 
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