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Hello. people just looking for a 20 ga Trade rifle? 24'' to 36 please keep a eye out for me!!!

Thank you!!!!

Ken
 
Fifty or larger for elk with conical bullet. .54 or larger with round ball. .45 with conical bullet or larger for deer. For now.
When I'm wrong, I'm wrong.

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I’m ok with that minimum for round ball. Elk aren’t pushovers. That said, my .40 caliber rifle launches a 400 grain paper patched bullet at 1400 fps and it will stack elk all day long but the Colorado division of parks and recreation, in its infinite wisdom, thinks it’s not enough power for elk… hmmmm.
 
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I’m ok with that minimum for round ball. Elk aren’t pushovers. That said, my .40 caliber rifle launches a 400 grain paper patched bullet at 1400 fps and it will stack elk all day long but the Colorado division of parks and recreation, in its infinite wisdom, thinks it’s not enough power for elk… hmmmm.
Let me PM you.
 
I have a TC 54 with the original barrel and the Green Mtn. 66 twist round ball barrel that I could sell. The only downsides are that it's a percussion and the lock is missing. L&R sells a drop in replacement for the TC. PM me if interested.
 
trying to find a Pedersoli (even a Taylor’s branded) Frontier Maple Deluxe .54 Flintlock.
I found mine, a Pedersoli Blue Ridge Frontier flintlock in 54 cal., at Cabela's in 2013. It's a tack driver and accurate with the right load. Don't know if it's a maple deluxe but a fine looking rifle. It was in the now defunct Bargain Barn for $480, the owner returned it because he couldn't figure out how to shoot it.o_O
 
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Rather than try to describe or elaborate on what French Colonial said this vid showcases the vender market fairly well. Gun makers, gun smiths, barrel makers, accoutrement of all sort and manner new and used, if its black powder related it'll be there usually in quantity. Several day event.


mama's not going to be happy! This surely put the trip bug on me, see you there!!
 
Pedersoli uses a very long chambered breechplug. It hurts reliability, particularly the first shot. That is not acceptable in a hunting rifle to me. The general styling and build techniques are not very traditional. The stock is goofie looking, the barrel is not swamped. Pedersoli's, overall quality has slipped quite a bit in the last few years.

Based on the Frontier price and what it is trying to be, but failing................

Drum role please,

Get a Kibler Woodsrunner

Seriously, given the price, the Kibler kit rifles are the best available today by any objective measure. You will never regret getting a Kibler.
BRAVO !!
Could not agree more with what you said.
Chambered breech plug, and butt stock architecture that doesn’t fit hardly anybody well.
Whichever Italians selected that butt profile obviously didn’t look at or mount to their shoulders very many originals to see what styles are out there.
A Lancaster-style looks much better to most eyes and fits a much larger percentage of shooters than that silly droopy stock does. The Lancaster style would be just as easy to produce ( maybe easier, too ).
In the nineties I worked for an Italian ammunition company that has a plant here in the US. Found that once the management decided on the design of something, there was no deviation allowed, even if something really needed to be changed. Also got the impression that that is sort of a national characteristic trait with the Italians (and even more-so with the Germans).
I think the Italian ML companies have all but quit production of long guns; perhaps because of the Covid-induced worker shortage.
 
May have said had opportunity to examine a number of recent imports side by side couple weeks ago and 3 more recently. IMHO all the big import names have some real QA/QC problems. Everything from wood selection to final fit seems off to one degree or other while metal work has suffered less. Seems post 2020 dated items may bear closer look and maybe lesser value and demand.
 
You would stay away from Sitting Fox finished rifles? Or their kits? Or both??

I just spoke with a private custom builder, that supposedly builds many of the rifles for Sitting Fox. He has offered to build my a semi-custom rifle that looks very similar to the Pedersoli Frontier, but supposedly of MUCH higher quality.

But several people have made negative comments towards Sitting Fox. With this guy being one of their builders, I wonder if that should be a concern??
I ordered a kit from Sitting Fox months ago. Still haven't received the other 1/2 of the kit. He's ignored my texts and emails.... I'm out $552 at least. Don't recommend. 😠
 
Sitting Fox is primarily reselling pecatonica kits and parts. I ordered a finished rifle from him, waited over 3 years and build quality is basically average. All the parts are good and exactly what I asked, but an 18-month wait for the parts and another 2-year wait for a hobbyist to assemble and finish. He had been farming out the work to several guys, but most of them quit and all the work went to one builder -who was working through a long backlog. Order one of his ready to ship kits, otherwise i'd avoid him altogether.
 
You would stay away from Sitting Fox finished rifles? Or their kits? Or both??

I just spoke with a private custom builder, that supposedly builds many of the rifles for Sitting Fox. He has offered to build my a semi-custom rifle that looks very similar to the Pedersoli Frontier, but supposedly of MUCH higher quality.

But several people have made negative comments towards Sitting Fox. With this guy being one of their builders, I wonder if that should be a concern??
I would not buy from them. Unless I knew the builder personally. All Sitting Fox does is locate parts for the kit. Farm the parts out to whoever. Then charge you for there service. Exactly what you can do.
 

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