Can I use this rifle at Rendezvous?

[Loyalist Dave]

Not sure I want to put my feet into somebody else's cast off footwear

Then Don't! :grin:

18th century shoes are often not a good idea for folks with modern feet or modern foot problems, and often mocs simply are not enough for those folks either. Plus,..., good quality authentic shoes can be a real budget buster.

So what do we do, tell folks "deal with the foot pain" (so much for keeping it fun) or "don't come out"? Do we permit folks to spray paint their Nike shoes black?

NOPE!

Go get a proper fitting pair of black leather shoes ( and "patent leather" doesn't count :haha: ). Leather soles are a good idea too, BUT if you need better traction than they will give, then get something that will keep you from slipping and falling and doing yourself an injury... THEN..., make a pair of Civilain Half-Gaiters to cover the upper part of the shoe that looks clearly 21st century.

I have made several pair both for military and civilians, and I use canvas from an old painter's cloth, and I paint them with black paint to make them very water resistant (don't use Rustoleum as the drying chemicals will make the cloth bittle), and add a few buttons and voila.


As for the original part of this thread..., I'd be very surprized if that rifle was prohibited at a fur trade era rondy.

LD

 

[54ball]

It's a Senaca or Cherokee. It is a handsome rifle and frankly, much more period correct than any TC Hawken or Renagade.
The nose cap, entry and lock plate plus the overall slim profile really make this rifle much more PC compared to the more common Hawken type.

If I was going to pass off a TC as a true 19th Century rifle , that model would be it. The only thing that sticks out like a sore thumb is the boxed rear sight.

I'm in a reenactment group that portrays Col. Coffee's Tennessee Militia of the Creek War of 1813-14 in present day Alabama. That's a pretty narrow focus in time, place and style.

If we have some one who shows up and demands we accept them with wrong equipment like fur trade,CW or even F&I stuff they are turned away. Apparently they have no real interest in the time period and or the education programs we do for the park.

On the other hand, If someone has nothing and was really interested in the period and wanted to learn and then educate, we have extra flintlocks available and extra clothing and they can join in because in these times, it may take quite a while for someone to get their kit available. We realize that.

 

[Claude Mathis]

Today I was thinking of selling my Harley Davidson to finance my future blackpowder wants, is that crazy or what.

Yes, that's insane! :wink:

 

[DUSTY 14]

many of the shoots i attend will let any wooden side lock or underhammer shoot. street clothes cost on your final score. 10 points for top middle and bottom. thirty points before you fire one shot is nothing to sneeze at. if it is wet i wear modern shoes and lose 10 points. and lots of campers in their tin tepees are in full dress.

 

[Rifleman1776]

It's a Senaca or Cherokee. It is a handsome rifle and frankly, much more period correct than any TC Hawken or Renagade.

In 1970, after I ditched my disaster CVA 'kentucky'...(but that's another story)...I got a TC 'hawken'.
On the primitive side of Friendship I immediately felt out of place with it. Nobody scalped me but it stood out and looked, to me, ridiculous in that setting.
At home, I dissassembled it, steel wooled the finish down to bare wood and put some kind of non glossy finish over it. Later I always rubbed my dirty patches on the brass to 'age' it. I clumbsily put some inlays on the stock. I browned the barrel, put on primitive sights and eventually got it to where it (sorta) blended into the primitive scene.

 

[Archie]

Not at all if it's what makes you happy. You should be able to get a few really nice guns in that move. I sold my bowling ball Harley in 1983 and that helped finance 40 acres of land and a Renegade. That was when land was going for $200 an acre. I don't think that old scooter has appreciated quite like the land.

 

[DOUBLEDEUCE 1]

I would take it and shoot it. Let someone come up and tell me I can't shoot that rifle, for whatever reason and be able to articulate why. If the rear sight is offensive or not correct, change the sight if it truely matters to you. Everything else, I would leave the same.

You might want to figure out if you want to shoot for fun with your rifle, or be more restricted and rigid about what and how to shoot. You might want to move closer to being historically accurate later, and then again you might not.

I can remember when I first got started shooting on a regular basis. I was told how and when to cast round balls using certain molds and doing it during the dark period of the moon over certain types of wood fires and coals, square patches vs. round patches cut at the muzzle, etc. For me, the more complicated and restricted it became, the more un-fun. I had to draw the line at grease in the beard and not bathing... :slap:

Find who and what you are comfortable with. Your interests can always change. Most of all enjoy yourself.

 

[greggholmes]

Not only would you be welcome in the pacific north west we will buy you a drink and loan you a blanket to sleep under...

 

[AHamilton]

Gregg is right, I'm just starting out here in the Pac North west and I've been accepted everywhere I've been and I shoot a TC Hawken built from a kit in the '80s. I have the white painter pants (pockets and loops still on) a shirt from my other living history hobby and a 16th century russian wool coat. Nobody gave me anything but welcome's and coffee.

I find it interesting that most of the HC people only get twisted around the axle with the guns and when you talk with them regarding tentage and camp equipment or shoes (as has been mentioned here) they aren't so critical. I've seen a lot of buckskins and HC guns come out of an RV... just saying.

 

[Many Klatch]

Bobby, most rendezvous that I have attended wouldn't say a thing about your gun. As long as a newbie is trying to look right, most Dog Soldiers will cut a lot of slack.

Now if you were going to a reenactment, then your gun probably wouldn't be accepted. But a reenactment is doing a particular time and place and someone has researched the clothes and equipment.

BTW, if you really want to get your feet wet, come on over to the NMLRA Spring shoot June 8 to the 16 http://nmlra.org/. A couple of thousand shooters, two of the biggest flea markets you've ever seen, and a commercial row dedicated to front stuffers.

Come and camp with us up on the Primitive side. The rules are really relaxed about clothing but we all do try to dress to some level of authenticity (some more than others) and you can learn a lot.

Many KLatch