Can you use bar stock Ferroceum

[Rat Trapper]

Has anyone ever used or thought of using bar stock ferroceum in place of using a flint?

 

[D Sanders]

Never heard of it

HH 60

 

[matt denison]

Has anyone ever used or thought of using bar stock ferroceum in place of using a flint?

I always use flint in my flintlocks and ferroceum in my ferroceumlocks.

What the hey is ferroceum? :idunno:

 

[brubincam]

http://www.jxmetals.com/sdp/316680/4/pd-1271720/1706219-637725.html

 

[ebiggs1]

All you need is Black English. No need to search for anything else. :surrender:

 

[Rifleman1776]

http://www.jxmetals.com/sdp/316680/4/pd-1271720/1706219-637725.html

The stuff is what sparks. Real flint makes the steel on the frizzen spark.
Not traditional. :nono: :shake: Would probably be outlawed by NMLRA like depleted uranium was.

 

[jerrywh]

Actually I saw that stuff used many years ago. It was sort of a fad that didn't last very long. Only a very few guys tried it. I think the peer pressure got to them. The ones I saw put that stuff on the frizzen face.

 

[Dean2]

RT

That is actually quite an interesting idea. If someone actually made a flint shaped piece it would be worth a try. My only thought is, I wonder if the average frizzen is actually rough enough to work with this. If you feel the wheel on a Zippo or sparker for gas stoves they are really quite rough. If you have a flint for an old style lighter you could try dragging it across you frizzen to see if it makes sparks. If it is too smooth should be pretty easy to sole the frizzen with a small piece of steel with checkering on it.
If you used JB weld or silver solder to attach it, would be easy enough to reverse.

Let us know if you try this out.

 

[David W.]

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but why are people continually trying to make the flintlock modern? :shake:

 

[MSW]

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but why are people continually trying to make the flintlock modern? :shake:

i don't think he's trying to be a 'wet blanket' at all ... i think his point is well taken ... while i will willingly conceed in such 'non - traditional' ideas as ballistol and patch lubes which use modern ingredients, i don't see the allure in non- flint rocks ...

what's wrong with plain old flint? it works OK for me.

assuming that i've properly set the flint in the cock and so on ... and if i haven't done my part, well, the thing won't work properly, which is of and in itself the allure of rockbanging.

now if you want to try out something new, i would defend your right to do so, but i'm defending you right to try something new with the proviso that you'll respect my right to join the 'wet blanket' movement.

the cranky old man's free opinion ... freee and well worth the price!

 

[David W.]

I didn't say he was trying to be a wet blanket. You miss read my post.

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but why are people continually trying to make the flintlock modern? :shake:

i don't think he's trying to be a 'wet blanket' at all ... i think his point is well taken ... while i will willingly conceed in such 'non - traditional' ideas as ballistol and patch lubes which use modern ingredients, i don't see the allure in non- flint rocks ...

what's wrong with plain old flint? it works OK for me.

assuming that i've properly set the flint in the cock and so on ... and if i haven't done my part, well, the thing won't work properly, which is of and in itself the allure of rockbanging.

now if you want to try out something new, i would defend your right to do so, but i'm defending you right to try something new with the proviso that you'll respect my right to join the 'wet blanket' movement.

the cranky old man's free opinion ... freee and well worth the price!

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I was told once that the US Army flintlock demonstration team had ceramic faced frizzens and used the stuff instead of flint as it always sparked and no misfires. I was never able to confirm this story or debunk it.

LD

 

[Matt85]

I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but why are people continually trying to make the flintlock modern? :shake:

you could say at least with current prices, flint is getting expensive! at around $2 per flint and an average of 30-40 shots per flint its actually about the same price as percussion caps.

as the price of flint goes up, you will find more and more people looking for something cheaper. their is also the human drive to improve things... its in our nature to always try to improve something. sometimes this drive to improve does more harm then good.

-matt

 

[Rat Trapper]

A friend of mine who is just getting into flintlocks asked me to ask this question. He doesn't have internet at home and is not allowed to go to places like this at work. Like many here I didn't know what he was talking about at first either. Appreicate the replys.

 

[F.G. Ford]

Very interesting question!
Yes I would use it, if I could find it.
In general I have no issues with my flintlock.
But always an edge is easy to accept.
Thank you for bringing it to mind.
I will be looking for Ferroceum.
Fred

 

[Billnpatti]

It may work but I suspect you will have to rough up the surface of your frizzen to make it spark. Even so, I wonder if it can withstand the shock of being struck against a frizzen. It may work but rapidly crumble as it is used. Every one that I am familiar with are scraped by metal such as in a cigarette lighter or a torch igniter. I've never seen any application where it is struck or scraped against a piece of metal. In the first case, the metal scrapes the ferocerium and in the other the ferocerium is struck against the metal. A mildly interesting experiment but nothing I'd want to pursue. Good old English flint in my flintlock keeps me smiling.

 

[BE Wild Willy]

I always use flint in my flintlocks and ferroceum in my ferroceumlocks.

What the hey is ferroceum? :idunno:

Now I'm gonna have to get a ferroceumlock, thanks alot!

 

[bioprof]

I've tried it with a wheellock, and it didn't work very well. The sparks weren't hot enough to ignite Goex 3F black powder.

 

[pargent]

+1 I first come across this as a fire starter device years ago, I have found that since being into the rondy thing that a simple old fashion flint and steel is much better as you said the sparks don't seem to be hot enough to catch on tinder etc ..

 

[Ken Rummer]

My first thought is that the flint shaves off steely sparks directly into the pan while with this material the steel frizzen shaves off Ferroceum sparks away from the pan.

A piece of rough steel in the jaw of the lock and a frizzen made out of Ferro.. may be an interesting experiment however I have a flinter because I want to do it the old way.