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[nwtradegun]

looking for one, also known as a voyagers cup or a gourd dipper

 

[necchi]

What your looking for is called and sold as a Noggin,, https://www.google.com/search?q=voyagers+cup&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=noggin+cup

 

[Black Hand]

looking for one, also known as a voyagers cup or a gourd dipper

It is a 2-hour project with a bock of wood, chisels and a rasp. I've made about a dozen of different sizes & shapes for friends. I use one that I made with a flat bottom as a general-purpose bowl when in the woods.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Crazy Crow sells them...

http://www.crazycrow.com/mm5/merch...earch_Begin_Only=&sort=&range_low=&range_high=

 

[nwtradegun]

I have already had 2 from crazy buzzard. there junk. crack even when oiled

 

[coloradoclyde]

Thanks for the "heads up" :thumbsup:

 

[GJP]

Try www.gennisheyotrading.com, they make great stuff, and Irv will stand behind what he makes.

 

[Rifleman1776]

looking for one, also known as a voyagers cup or a gourd dipper

It is a 2-hour project with a bock of wood, chisels and a rasp. I've made about a dozen of different sizes & shapes for friends. I use one that I made with a flat bottom as a general-purpose bowl when in the woods.

Would you mind showing a couple pictures? And describing your technique, kinds of wood used, etc? I am a wood worker, do a little carving also but have never had success making a noggin. Drew lotsa blood once :shocked2: but that didn't help things at all.

 

[WoodsRoamer]

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/f...293098/post/1461973/hl//fromsearch/1/#1461973 Here is a post of my first noggin I whittled it out of a sugar maple burl and hollowed it out using a spoon knife took me about 6+ hours of carving. It is a nice pass time I would carve at night after dinner for about an hour or 2 and than store it in a paper bag wrapped in a damp cloth to keep it from drying out.

 

[Black Hand]

looking for one, also known as a voyagers cup or a gourd dipper

It is a 2-hour project with a bock of wood, chisels and a rasp. I've made about a dozen of different sizes & shapes for friends. I use one that I made with a flat bottom as a general-purpose bowl when in the woods.

Would you mind showing a couple pictures? And describing your technique, kinds of wood used, etc? I am a wood worker, do a little carving also but have never had success making a noggin. Drew lotsa blood once :shocked2: but that didn't help things at all.

Made with chisels, rasps and a little sandpaper from a piece of cottonwood (split log). I roughed the shape with a saw once the top and bottom were planed parallel and the bowl hollowed-out. Finished with vegetable oil. The thong/toggle allow me to attach it to a strap/belt easily.

 

[George]

Are these documented to the 18th century?

Spence

 

[Black Hand]

Two additional cups/bowls made from gourds and a noggin made from a burl.

 

[Black Hand]

I can't say whether that particular style would be period, but isn't out of the realm of possibility.

 

[George]

Yeah, I know many different types were made from wood or other stuff, but the particular ones with the toggle arrangement have always seemed like a reenactorism. I've asked about them before but never have found any info about them.

Thanks.

Spence

 

[Black Hand]

It was a convenient and useful method to attach it to my pack strap. Sometimes things wander, and having items on a leash is helpful to me.

 

[coloradoclyde]

Weren't they used by the voyagers. Or is that just hollywood?

 

[Hermit]

About these cups, if you have making the voyager book on the inside page there is a picture of one and how they were made etc. the book is/was by the Neb. uv. press, the writer a prof. in Canada.
Hermit

 

[George]

I'm a fan of the sketch books of Dr. C. Keith Wilbur, and one of them is The Revolutionary Soldier 1775-1783. In it he discussed these noggins. He is very good about his sources, and will usually tell you where the original artifact he is sketching is located. In this case he doesn't do that, but I find him generally very reliable.



Spence

 

[coloradoclyde]

How do you finish or treat the gourd cups ?
I have gourds growing this year..... might want to make one.....

 

[Black Hand]

If it will be used for cold liquids, I use beeswax (warm the gourd in the oven, add melted wax, allow to soak in, pour out the excess and repeat until satisfied. Allow to cool and polish the exterior with a paper towel or canvas). You could coat the interior with veg oil when used for hot foods. Some just clean and use without any coating.

We tend to view gourds like moccasins today - we want them to last since they can be tough to find and are a nuisance to make. In reality, they are disposable items...