Cap-Nipple

[rodwha]

I had Rem #11's for my Old Army. Never had a problem with them not going off, but did notice on 2 nipples that when the pistol was pointed up they'd slide down.

So I took one of my offensive nipples to the LGS and found CCI #11 magnums fit great. Bought 3 cans along with some powder and went to the range and found that I had miss-fires galore! It appears as though some of the nipples might be a little too large for them and require a double fire to set them off.

I've read often of people replacing their stock nipples, and am wondering what nipples will work for an Old Army with CCI #11's, which I can easily find along with my powder of choice.

I was hoping not to have to replace them as I just bought a nut driver, but this is unacceptable!

 

[CoyoteJoe]

Track has this. http://www.trackofthewolf.com/List/Item.aspx/64/1/PRA-S

 

[rodwha]

I'm curious what this means (from Track Of The Wolf's site regarding the nipples)
12-28 thread

 

[Farmerted]

I think it means number 12 size hole and 28 threads to the inch. I might be wrong about the hole size thing....

 

[rafterob]

12 is the width of the shank, 28 is the thread count. 12-28 would be standard and not metric. I am not sure but I would think Pietta is metric.

 

[rodwha]

I have also had Blomquist nipples recommended. I cannot find any info on their nipples online.

Anyone know how they compare?

ToTW sells them at the fair price of $3.99 ea (SS) vs $5+.

ToTW stated not to use CCI #11 magnum caps as they may rub the frame. But it's what my LGS sells.

There is ~ 1/8" between the caps and frame with the magnums on the stock nipples...

 

[gl1200a]

Blomquist's site is offline.
Last email I had with Ron was at this address.

[email protected]

Only time I have had problems with misfires with either of my ROA's is with lighter main spring.
Are you the original owner of the gun?
If you don't want to buy a new main spring, a washer under it will cure the problem, if it's
too light of a spring.

All I use is #11 CCI Magnums.

 

[Zonie]

I'm curious what this means (from Track Of The Wolf's site regarding the nipples)
12-28 thread

12-28 is a standard but somewhat uncommon thread size.

When talking about threads most folks have heard of a #8-32 or a #10-24 but the next size is usually thought of as being a 1/4-20.

The #12 fits in between the #10 and the 1/4 inch diameter thread.
It has a body diameter of .209-.215 which makes it smaller than a metric 6mm (.236) thread.

 

[rodwha]

I am the second owner of this pistol. It once belonged to my father's best friend who passed.

From what I gather he was a leave it all stock kinda guy.

My friend had the majority of the misfire problems, but I, too, had a few. I went from Rem #11 caps that slid part way off of a few nipples to CCI #11 magnums, and also went from Pyrodex P to 777 (30+ grns). Initially I felt it was his lack of seating them firmly as he has big sausage fingers.

But having inspected it there are 1 or 2 caps that don't seem to seat as far as the rest. 1 is quite noticeable.

 

[rodwha]

I'm really considering the nipples from ToTW. He states that the outer dimensions are those of the Ruger along with the hex head design, but have a Treso flash hole. They are nearly $2 less per nipple too!

Anyone used them on their Old Army?

 

[rodwha]

I sent Ron an e-mail. Thanks gl1200!

 

[rodwha]

I had ordered the nipples from Track of The Wolf. They state that they are designed for CCI # 11 caps.

I have CCI #11 magnum caps. They fit quite snuggly. In fact they are nearly impossible to pull back off. But they all to often don't fully seat even when pushed by a dowel.

When I first installed them and checked the seating of caps I noticed one wouldn't seat all of the way and called to find out about their return policy, whether or not I could fire it and still return it.

He told me that I may not want to deal with the return and could chuck it in my drill and take a piece of emory cloth to it. What!?!?

I didn't mark them, but I usually got a couple to fire the first go around. I'd be more inclined to send them all back and ask for the Treso nipples instead.

I really liked that these have the hex head design like the Ruger nipples...

I'd hate to have to find a different source for caps as my LGS carries the powder I want and only CCI caps (#10 and #11 mag).

I don't really want to have to go through the hassle of return and no doubt paying the return shipping and long wait. But I'd be afraid of taking a little too much off of the nipples. Grrr!

I'll be calling them to see what can be done. What would you do?

 

[Zonie]

I would put the nipple in my electric drill, chucking on the body, not the threads.

I would then get my metal cutting flat file and a few caps.

Holding the drill on my left side with the chuck pointed towards my right side of my lap I would start it running slowly in the "normal" direction.

Holding the file at the same angle as the surface of the existing cone I would lightly press it against the conical surface and (with the drill running slowly) push it forward, or away from me.

I would then try one of the caps to see how it fit.

If it would slide on becoming somewhat tight just as it's lower edge apporached the bottom of the cone I would say, "One done."

If it started to tighten up too soon I would repeat the filing.

When I was finished I would have a set of custom made nipples that would do exactly what I wanted when used with the percussion caps I want to use.

Like many of the things with muzzleloading, whether it is sighting in a new rifle or building one, going slowly allows us to sneak up on just what we are looking for.

Hurrying or forcing things almost always ends up causing problems.

 

[rodwha]

I did as you suggested and went light. Now to get back to a range and see...

 

[rodwha]

Any reason why a nipple designed to use CCI #11's wouldn't fully seat a CCI #11 magnum cap?