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I would like to know the pros and cons of caps vs 209 primers on 50 cal rifles that I am considing!
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Caps vs Primers
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I may be wrong but aren't 209s made for modern inlines?
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I am new to black powder, looking at CVA break barrel rifles and they are available in either!
Those are modern inlines and are (as per the site rules) "unmetionables" on this site. The site only deals in traditional muzzleloaders up to 1865.
That question would be best answered on the sister site, Modern Muzzleloader.
Modern Muzzleloader
Don't get me wrong, you are more than welcome but we have to stay within the site's area of focus.
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Sorry my ignorance! Please delete post
Don't worry about it, just giving you a friendly heads up.
Traditional 50 cal muzzleloaders using percussion caps will get you
all the deer you can eat.
all the deer you can eat.
Woody Morgan
62 Cal.
Like my signature sez...
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Actually, they sell conversion kits to switch a caplock traditional rifle over to primers.
Mag Spark 209
Pedersoli
The ONLY advantage that you get is with a few types of breeches in caplock rifles, coupled with black powder substitutes (especially "pellets"), the primers are a lot more reliable for ignition in those cases....,
BUT IF you want the most out of your rifle, especially traditional, then you really should be using a loose powder, and you should be tailoring your load for accuracy, and the best choice will be black powder (imho), and not a sub.
Other people will disagree, and point out how "clean burning" some of the most expensive substitute powders are, but I submit, that when in the field (all my target shooting is to maintain my marksmanship skills for harvesting game animals),... you run a greater chance of moisture, just a little dampness, and a powder that is tougher to ignite when completely dry, will be even tougher to light when a teeny tiny bit damp.
So I use black powder, and I figure if "cleaning" my piece ever becomes an issue then I should consider going back to cartridge rifles. That's just me though...,
LD
They also make Magnum caps.
Col. Batguano
75 Cal.
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The Mag Spark device is in one of those "gray areas" regarding whether it is or is not appropriate for discussion here. In any event, because it's sealed, it would certainly seem to be more weather resistant, and probably more positive. Whether it meeds ID's hunting requirement of "an exposed ignition cap or pan" requirement for a legal gun there I don't know.
It would certainly be slower to reload, but when hunting you only get 1 shot most of the time anyway, so the point is largely moot. If it takes another 20-30 seconds to deal with reloading a new 209 in to the holder rather than 5 for putting on a new cap just wouldn't affect my decision to hunt with it. At the range it's a somewhat different story.
It would certainly be slower to reload, but when hunting you only get 1 shot most of the time anyway, so the point is largely moot. If it takes another 20-30 seconds to deal with reloading a new 209 in to the holder rather than 5 for putting on a new cap just wouldn't affect my decision to hunt with it. At the range it's a somewhat different story.
