Carbine Hawken

[redcarpet]

I am wanting a faster twist barrel for my Hawken and want it shorter like a carbine.

1" barrel channel.

Has anybody done this and about how short can a guy go and not get the balance too far out of whack?

I still want a bit of muzzle heavy like my current 32" barrel but it doesn't have to be quite as pronounced with the shorter barrel as it will be used in the woods at archery type ranges.

 

[dave951]

Bobby Hoyt is the go-to for rifling and muzzleloading bores.

 

[centershot]

On your current barrel, how much barrel extends beyond the ramrod ferrule at the muzzle end? If you can cut 4-5" and still leave enough room to tuck the metal end of the ramrod tip under the barrel behind the muzzle then that's where I'd cut it. If you think you'll need to remove more barrel then you'll also need to move the ferrule back. My Renegade's have 26" barrels, 1" across the flats, I don't think I'd want less length than that. The .54 is somewhat barrel heavy but hangs nicely offhand. The .58 is notably less muzzle heavy but still hangs nicely when shooting offhand.

 

[Urban Coyote]

Sounds like you want a T/C White Mtn Carbine, 21" barrel with a twist for conicals. They made them in .45, .50 and .54. The .54 has a 1" barrel, the others 15/16" so I'm thinking a .54 might be your target.

I got screwed on a .50 White Mtn Carbine I tucked away later sending it to Mr. Hoyt for a rebored to a .54 for roundball, I'm loving it.

Good luck finding whatever it is you're looking for.

 

[bubba.50]

Sounds like you want a T/C White Mtn Carbine, 21" barrel with a twist for conicals. They made them in .45, .50 and .54. The .54 has a 1" barrel, the others 15/16" so I'm thinking a .54 might be your target.

I got screwed on a .50 White Mtn Carbine I tucked away later sending it to Mr. Hoyt for a rebored to a .54 for roundball, I'm loving it.

Good luck finding whatever it is you're looking for.

The 54cal White Mountain had TC's regular 1 in 48 twist.

At one time Green Mountain offered their LRH fast twist drop-ins in either 21 or 22 inch length. Maybe you could find one tucked away somewhere.

 

[redcarpet]

Rice offers drop ins that are in the white. Just don't know if a 24" will be too butt heavy.

 

[bubba.50]

Rice offers drop ins that are in the white. Just don't know if a 24" will be too butt heavy.

That would be just 2 inches shorter than a Renegade barrel.

 

[Bad Karma]

Rice offers drop ins that are in the white. Just don't know if a 24" will be too butt heavy.

I doubt it.. you’ll still have most of the weight well in front of the middle of the rifle.

 

[chorizo]

My T/C whte mountain carbine in 54cal 22" barrel balances about 5 inches in front the of trigger guard ...Remember that it also has a rounded barrel on the front half of the barrel which puts the balance point about 1" forward of the middle of the rifle making the rifle slightly barrel heavy

A 22" fully square barrel will balance a couple of inches more forward of center making it even more barrel heavy that the rounded version. so @Bad Karma is spot on, a 24" will be barrel heavy