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akapennypincher

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The bug has bitten me and i am coming to a little GREEN. So i ask anyone got a Smothe from Caywood Recently, and are they still doing Great Guns? :confused: :confused:
 
You bet. Danny and Mike will stand behind anything they sell, too. Got my eye on a Type 'D' French fusil, myself...
Mark
 
Caywood makes a decent production gun, but for comparable dollars I'd take a Mike Brooks fowler anyday. Caywood components are nice, but the finished product looks mass produced, with machined parts and cast in "engraving".

I had a couple of Caywood's including a 12 gauge fowler which performed well, and which I generally liked until I compared it to a Mike Brooks fowler someone brought to a trap shoot.

There simply was not comparison between the quality of the two guns. My Caywood had a commercial pressure finish, that looked streaky. The Brooks had a traditional finish that simply looked authentic. Ignition with my Caywood was quick and reliable but the Brooks was quicker. Caywood won't use flash hole liners, and relies on an externally coned flashole. It works well, but liners seem to perform better. My Caywood had a nicely figured maple stock, but the Brooks gun I saw had an outstanding piece of walnut.

Caywood uses Mike Rowe locks. Mike Rowe makes a real nice product, but should you ever need replacement parts there is no other source of supply. The Brooks gun I saw had a Jim Chambers lock, and was in and of itself a marvel to behold. I broke a part on my lock and it cost me $40.00 and several weeks to replace from Caywood. Chambers and Brooks are celebrated for there customer service. The Rowe locks on the Caywood guns I owned looked "sandblasted." The Chamber's lock on the Brooks was authentically bright and enhanced the overall appearance of the fowler.

Compared to the Brooks gun, the forestock on my Caywood looked slab sided. Caywood also uses a large diameter ramrod channel, which just looked disproportionate.

While it's all subjective, I think Brooks builds a better product, and is truly a custom maker. After I handled the Mike Brooks fowler, I couldn't enjoy the Caywood. I might mention that I had also purchased a rifle from Caywood that I was so disappointed I sold it for a few hundred dollars less than I paid for it. In the long run, I think a Mike Brooks gun will retain it's value better over time than a production gun. I see a lot of Caywoods for sale well below what the original owner paid for them or Caywood advertises them for.

In the final analysis Mike Brooks will build what you want. When the gun delivers you will own something that is uniquely yours. A Caywood is a Caywood. You might spend several months waiting for it, but when it delivers you will have a production gun, built to Caywood's specifications rather than your own.
 
I don't think the Caywood guns are any better than the northstarr west, Centermark or any of a number of what are often called semi custom guns, Chambers is a great place for parts sets but don't have the French guns if that is what you are looking for,as mentioned above if you want a GREAT gun made historical correct with the best parts and workmanship, that Brooks guy would be hard to beat, it kind of depends on what you really want in a gun Bruce, I know you have asked this same question often over the years, perhaps by now you have settled on a particular style which may help in your search of the best maker/parts set for your needs.
 
Mark Graham said:
Danny and Mike will stand behind anything they sell, too.

I have heard multiple reports of poor customer service from unhappy owners of Caywoods guns.
 
Hi Iron Mike,
I have never handled a Mike Brooks product but apparently must do so.
In the meantime,however, exactly where is it that your'e seeing all those sub-priced Caywoods?
Mark
 
Ol' J.D., he say
"...I have heard multiple reports of poor customer service from unhappy owners of Caywoods guns..."

Hi J.D.,
Can you give me the source of these complaints? I don't want to sound like a Caywood
stockholder or anything, but I simply have not had that experience.
Also, an acquaintance of mine from New Zealand recently posted accolades on another forum after he bought a used Caywood and discovered problems with the lock. Mike Rowe sent him replacement parts no questions asked.
I can't comment as to the quality of finish as compared to a custom gun, I'll certainly take you guys' word for it. I've not compared the products side by side. I think Caywood makes a pretty nice gun, though... :v
Mark
 
I have a[url] N.W.Trade[/url] Gun from Caywood the only issue I had was the frizzen after many rounds fired quit sparking like it once had and they sent me a new frizzen as soon as I called them no charge and appoligized for the problem don't see how it could'a been easier. MTN MAN
 
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Mark Graham said:
Can you give me the source of these complaints? I don't want to sound like a Caywood
stockholder or anything, but I simply have not had that experience.

I don't take notes on folks who either like a product or don't like it, or have issues with service.

Just reporting what I have heard from people who have not been happy with either the gun or service.
J.D.
 
There was a long run on the Historical Trekking site a couple months back about some really poor customer service practices with Caywood. They also have a thing about touch hole liners and refuse to touch a gun with one and will void all warranty on one of their guns if one's installed. Have never heard of a liner becoming a deadly projectile but they're extremely adamant about it. Everybody's entitled....
 
Iron Jim Rackham said:
Caywood makes a decent production gun, but for comparable dollars I'd take a Mike Brooks fowler anyday.


I went to Mike Brooks' website, looks like he builds some really nice guns. In particular, I like the looks of that Carolina gun...

Mark
 
Wes/Tex said:
They also have a thing about touch hole liners and refuse to touch a gun with one and will void all warranty on one of their guns if one's installed. Have never heard of a liner becoming a deadly projectile but they're extremely adamant about it. Everybody's entitled....



Danny does not believe in Touch Hole Liners, and if you put one in it will VOID HIS WARRANTY. That is Black & White in his Warranty. Good or bad if you buy a Caywood live with the TERMS of their Warranty, or you will be upset.

Speaking of Touch Hole liners were they around Circa pre 1815..
? I think NOT.
:surrender: :surrender: :surrender: :surrender:
 
Actually touchhole liners were around in the 18th cent. They were not common. Caywood makes a nice gun, but is more of a 'production' gun* than some of the semi-custom shops. I have handled alot of Caywoods and unless they have declined in recent years, they all were nicely made with fine components and all shoot good. There is a very nice Caywood fowler for sale for $1400 on the American Longrifle site. You can order them in the white and finish them yourself. *[Caywood uses computer controlled machines to shape and inlet their stocks].
 
akapennypincher said:
Speaking of Touch Hole liners were they around Circa pre 1815..
? I think NOT. [/b][/color] :surrender: :surrender: :surrender: :surrender:


Think again!
 
I bought a Wilson's 20 ga. from Caywood a few years back. I beleive I paid about $1200. Very nice gun and a positive experience dealing with Danny. I don't think you can compare the Caywood guns to a true custom from Mike Brooks or other such makers. I think the Caywoods are a solid value for the money, but a Brooks fowler is on a much higher level, and the price is quite a bit higher. I seem to recall Mike offering one here or at American Longrifles for around $3800 or so... quite a bit more than the Caywood.. and probably worth it.
 
Two fowlers Mike has listed on his site right now ([url] http://www.fowlingguns.com/[/url] ) are running at $2250 and $2300. Excellent and well worth the price. We are actually comparing apples and oranges, I'm sure both makers' products will give satisfaction depending on what you feel you can spend.
 
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I'm quite sure mikes kits are only 1000. finished and 750 in the white .
would that not be resonable to compare...apples to apples ??
 
"Can you give me the source of these complaints?"

There have been several unhapy customers and potential customers on other forums, one does not always know the whole story but often where there is smoke there is fire, as for the liners you don't really need one anyway.
 
recheck your figures, that is 750 in the white "PLUS" the cost of the kit, 1000 finished "PLUS" the cost of the kit. this changes the whole price dynamic I think
 

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