CCI and me, it's over

[bobthemotorcycle]

I just sent my son to Cabelas to get me a tin of #10 caps and he came back with none. With me being new to this sport I was suprised and told him you must be crazy and I than went to the Cabelas web site and looked up cci #10 caps. It reads that they are on back order and if I ordered today it will take 10 to 11 weeks before they are shipped.

I am very thankful I have about 6 tin full of #11's even if that is not what I want right now.

When I get my tax refund check I am ordering 2000 #10 caps from whoever will ship them first.

Sorry to hear your caps did not work. Maybe you were not holding your tongue in the correct mannor.

 

[cynthialee]

ya know now you mention it, I didn't push my glasses up my nose and set my jaw right before I shot them caps
must be the problem right there
:haha:

 

[Mad Professor]

Never had a dud CCI #11 or #11 Mag cap.

How is the nipple and the cup on the hammer?

 

[BullRunBear]

Sorry you've had trouble. I have always had good results with CCI caps. Had more duds (not many) with Remingtons.

But you may be correct. I often have a problem unless I adjust my glasses. :grin:

Jeff

 

[Rifleman1776]

they are less than a year old and have sat in my possibles bag in my bedroom just like the other caps I have
I have an old tin of #12's that has been around for a very long time and I can throw one of them on a nipple and it will fire a rifle right now.

Not really on topic with the original issue but, I think, pertinent.
IMHO, age is not really much of an issue with caps. Maybe not over hundreds of years like bp but still, in my experience, viable for many decades.
Since I mostly shoot flintlock, I don't use many caps. Just occasionally to remind myself why we live at all......... to shoot finters. :grin:
Enneyhow, the caps I have are left overs from my ml shop in Indiana which I closed in 1976. They are several brands, lot of Navy Arms in a couple types of containers, some El Cheapo unidentifiable imports and others. All are reliable and fire when hammer falls.

 

[Otter]

I have shot CCI caps almost exclusively since 1991. I did buy some Remingtons in the mid 90s, but they wouldn't fit in my Ted Cash cappers, so traded them for some more CCIs. The only "duds" I have had were not because of the caps themselves, but because of the nipples they were applied to. Changing out for a new, or reshaped, nipple resolved the problem without fail. I have had more misfires from LR primers in my -06 than with CCI primers in my MLs. I have used upwards of 20,000 CCIs over the years, so have had tins from numerous batches and runs, although I do usually buy them in lots of 1000.

Sorry you have had difficulties using the CCIs. Do what ya gots to to make things work for you.

 

[cynthialee]

OK I am hearing this nipple issue from a number of you

The nipple on that gun looks brand new. The entire barrel is basicaly new old stock, as it was purchased put in the safe and then never used until I got it.
I usualy just put a new hotshot on a gun when I get it, but as all of it looked factory new and the tip not mushroomed at all I didn't bother.

I went to the store yesterday and just got anouther tin of the Remingtons. So far I am very pleased with them.
Maybe I got a little hot tempered with them normal CCI caps the other day. I just get real riled and agitated when I get a FTF. I work very careful to not have them, takeing extra time to be sure. So them FTF's really worked me up.

 

[BrianL]

I will have to add to the pile-on in respect to the nipples :stir: . I shoot 1000's of CCI caps and have only had a problem with Italian nipples ( :grin: ), both Lyman GPRs and a Cabela's 58 cal Hawken. They ALL went off but many needed two strikes. They do not fit right.

 

[David Grout]

Try getting a replacement nipple from Track, they are made to fit CCI caps.

Two Shot

 

[Many Klatch]

At an antique gun show this weekend all they had available were CCI caps instead of my preferred Remington brand, so I guess I get to see how they work.

Many Klatch

 

[Loyalist Dave]

I swore off of them years ago, but as some have mentioned, it was using a shotgun that is Italian. I use Reminton, but prefer the German caps.

LD

 

[BrownBear]

I think every company is likely to have a bad run of product now and then. I've had zero problems with a bunch of CCI, but for a couple of years every tin of Remington I opened always had loose priming pellets floating around in the can among the caps. Had to sort through the whole can to find the caps that had lost their guts.

But where I live at the end of the supply line, you kinda have to take what you can get. Remington seems to have their act together recently, and I haven't yet blown through the last 5k CCI I bought.

If this is a new deal with CCI, I'll buy a half dozen cans to check them out before I buy another 5k.

Thanks for the heads up.

 

[stude 283]

I don't know why,but I always seem to have different(weird?) experiences than everyone else.While I've never had problems with cci caps the remingtons gave me fits.It was not that they did not go off,but they cut a small circle of paper from the priming material which went down in the nipple and plugged it up.I don't know about the newer remingtons though.I have not used in several years because of this problem.

 

[Carl Fowler III]

Have used the cci #11 caps in the past without a hitch...since I put the percussion lock back on recently I'm using the Remington #11 (found em in the safe) and no failures yet...may even try a musket nipple just to see how they work...did you know there's a nipple replacement that allows one to shoot 209 primers in a regular percussion gun too! Heck I'll probably give that a try also, might be nice to have in case the supplies of regular caps dry up! :thumbsup:

 

[Fox.45]

mebbt ye otta git yearself a flinter,,,, just sayin. :haha: fox.45..

 

[Poor Private]

mebbt ye otta git yearself a flinter,,,, just sayin. :haha: fox.45..

Can't use a flinter at civil war events. Can't use CCI at civil war events to dangerous banned at alot of them. And the CCI reenactor caps are manure. You can buy them for 1/2 the listed price at events cause they misfire 1/2 the time and won't fire a Sharps.

 

[mageckman]

I don't blame ya for gettin rid of the CCI's. The last 5 tins I have used have all been bad. These were all tins purchased in the last year. Both Magnums and regular. 10's and 11's. About 80 percent of the caps were bad. Took a minimum of two hammer drops to set them off.I think their quality control has problems or is nonexistent anymore. As soon as I can get some Remingtons or RWS caps, I don't plan on using CCI's ever again. It may be your gun as others have said, but I doubt it. I started a thread on here awhile back about the problems I was having. I was told it was the gun, not the caps.I did all the suggestions and no improvement. I changed cap brands, and no more problems. I even tried them on another rifle I have and still had problems.There is a even a thread on the NMLRA group on Facebook about the problems with CCI caps right now. Hopefully you get your problems sorted out.

 

[JJCASTINGS]

Have used the cci #11 caps in the past without a hitch...since I put the percussion lock back on recently I'm using the Remington #11 (found em in the safe) and no failures yet...may even try a musket nipple just to see how they work...did you know there's a nipple replacement that allows one to shoot 209 primers in a regular percussion gun too! Heck I'll probably give that a try also, might be nice to have in case the supplies of regular caps dry up! :thumbsup:

Never a FTF with CCI or Remington. I did make sure the nipple is squared off. I do have the 209 adapter just in case. Only FTF I have had was operator error when I did not pop a cap to get the long term storage oil out. Cap fired, powder did not.

 

[JJCASTINGS]

ya know now you mention it, I didn't push my glasses up my nose and set my jaw right before I shot them caps
must be the problem right there
:haha:

:rotf: It's the set of the jaw. I let the recoil adjust my glasses.

 

[buttonbuck]

I had a tin of CCI I bought last summer at Bass Pro and the lid was rusted shut I do not know if they got wet but that is the only bad run.