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SwampRat - I have a original 3rd model. I have no clue where it's been or why it was modified.I got it from a feller in Montana. The butt has about 1" removed and plate filed to fit - the barrel is 30" with a drop of solder for front sight - it is a half stock with a nicely made brass cap. The lock is in excellent condition and sparks better than my 2 repro Besses. Don't have pics. I'll try to get some but it will be a while ( I've got some weather related problems to tend to). Bill
 
or562,on what you're calling a third model what does the lock look like and what are it's markings?
Tom Patton
 
Okwaho,The lock has a double throated cock,is the same shape (and will almost fit ) as my repros(2nd model?).
BRANDER
& POTTS
LONDON
I was told by someone on another site that they made locks, thusly marked between 1809-1827.
Any further or different info would be appreciated. Thanks,Bill
 
Bill,
I think it would be the same story of the movement of Brown Bess' as the Charlevilles and early Springfields. The US government tended to sell off at public auctions any surplus weapons, especially flintlocks, as the era of the pecussion weapons came in. The War of 1812 stocks were mostly sold off at auction beginning post-War of 1812 and continued into the 1840's. many arsenals like Springfield and H. Ferry were ordered by the US government to re-coop the cost of repairing out-of-date muskets by selling what they considered "junk". I would suspect that both Charlevilles, Springfields would have seen the same fate as old Brown Bess muskets which had been intended for state militias. Remember the US Marines were issued Brown Bess' during the War of 1812- by their own request. So the era of the Bess came to an end in the hands of US regulars after that. Foreign weapons always took a back seat, ostensibly, to domestically produced weapons.

So take that tidbit where you wish in your search. Hope this helps.

Cheers,
Jim Chochole
 
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