cleaned a .31 cal

[camoloc]

My 1849 has weird size thread on nipples. Had to have one custom made. If you find any from slix that work be sure to lemme know. They are COOL! My daughter in law is sure nice to me when we take it out to the range and I could see her asking for one soon. Ladies love em!

What that holster run and give us a web site. I need another for my Sherrif thats being goonerized as we speak. Hoping to get it this week per that check in. Mike stays too BUSY! HA

look up Big Texas Leather Works on Etsy.

great dealer........and his work is worth 4x what he charges.

great CS, great person......good to deal with.

camo

 

[camoloc]

this is what his actual 1849 holster looks like which is good.........

but for banging around in the the truck I prefer for things to be covered more

camo

 

[camoloc]

My 1849 has weird size thread on nipples. Had to have one custom made. If you find any from slix that work be sure to lemme know. They are COOL! My daughter in law is sure nice to me when we take it out to the range and I could see her asking for one soon. Ladies love em!

What that holster run and give us a web site. I need another for my Sherrif thats being goonerized as we speak. Hoping to get it this week per that check in. Mike stays too BUSY! HA

oh yeah btw,

vendor has a lot of options for different sized revolvers


camo

 

[camoloc]

That proof mark was first used in '51.

"Since '51".

I'm assuming that means it's been used on black powder revolvers ever since.

Actually, all black powder guns since '51.


PS: No frame stamps. Two letters inside a square. That's your date code.

thanks but these are the only two definitive markings I have.

the rest is just speculation.

camo

 

[camoloc]

That proof mark started being used in 1951 and is current. The very first Italian reproduction pistol didn't come into existance until 1959 and .31 caliber reproduction pistols started being produced in the mid to late 1960's by Armi San Marco. That one looks like a Wells Fargo .31 model because it has the oval trigger guard and no loading lever. Uberti makes them and are still made. That one is a newer one that someone scrubbed all the finish off of it and and most all of the markings (defarbed). The grip was checkered by a professional or the owner bought an aftermarket grip for it. There are companies that make custom grips for all the reproductions.

alright, but this is an odd duck in 6 shot........and indexed and faced perfectly on the forcing cone.

whoever tweeked this or altered it definitely knew their craft or what they were doing.

either way I bought a puzzle and am perfectly fine with that.

it rings the bells with 10 grns. of 4 FG!!!!!


camo

 

[Hawk54]

alright, but this is an odd duck in 6 shot........and indexed and faced perfectly on the forcing cone.

whoever tweeked this or altered it definitely knew their craft or what they were doing.

either way I bought a puzzle and am perfectly fine with that.

it rings the bells with 10 grns. of 4 FG!!!!!


camo

I didn't say it was a Wells Fargo but that it looks like a Wells Fargo which it looks exactly like one but the Uberti Wells Fargo is five shot. It is an Italian .31 pocket pistol as noted by the Italian proofs on the cylinder but just don't know who made it as the markings are gone. Several people here on the forum do a great job of making their pistols look more like originals. Really not hard to do at all.

I am sure I have seen a six shot Italian pocket pistol for sale somewhere recently. I will have to look and see if I can find it. Original Colt pocket pistols were made with five and six shot cylinders so there is a real likely hood that the Italians made copies of both.

If you want to read some good information on .31 caliber reproductions go to Capandballrevolvers.com. Click on the blog articles at the top of the page and then scroll down to .31. Gives you a great rundown on the history of most of the reproduction .31 caliber revolvers. The information isn't necessarily complete as the person doing the research passed away in 2018 but it is the most comprehensive source I have seen on these pistols. Dr. James H. Davis had been doing extensive research for many years on all the reproduction revolvers since the birth of the modern reproduction revolver in 1959 towards publishing a comprehensive book on them. His unfortunate death in 2018 caused a halt to his research. Can only hope someone takes up the matle and continues his work.

 

[camoloc]

I didn't say it was a Wells Fargo but that it looks like a Wells Fargo which it looks exactly like one but the Uberti Wells Fargo is five shot. It is an Italian .31 pocket pistol as noted by the Italian proofs on the cylinder but just don't know who made it as the markings are gone. Several people here on the forum do a great job of making their pistols look more like originals. Really not hard to do at all.

I am sure I have seen a six shot Italian pocket pistol for sale somewhere recently. I will have to look and see if I can find it. Original Colt pocket pistols were made with five and six shot cylinders so there is a real likely hood that the Italians made copies of both.

If you want to read some good information on .31 caliber reproductions go to Capandballrevolvers.com. Click on the blog articles at the top of the page and then scroll down to .31. Gives you a great rundown on the history of most of the reproduction .31 caliber revolvers. The information isn't necessarily complete as the person doing the research passed away in 2018 but it is the most comprehensive source I have seen on these pistols. Dr. James H. Davis had been doing extensive research for many years on all the reproduction revolvers since the birth of the modern reproduction revolver in 1959 towards publishing a comprehensive book on them. His unfortunate death in 2018 caused a halt to his research. Can only hope someone takes up the matle and continues his work.

awesome thanks.

I like watching cap and ball videos too.

camo

 

[1stnamebassist]

I didn't say it was a Wells Fargo but that it looks like a Wells Fargo which it looks exactly like one but the Uberti Wells Fargo is five shot. It is an Italian .31 pocket pistol as noted by the Italian proofs on the cylinder but just don't know who made it as the markings are gone. Several people here on the forum do a great job of making their pistols look more like originals. Really not hard to do at all.

I am sure I have seen a six shot Italian pocket pistol for sale somewhere recently. I will have to look and see if I can find it. Original Colt pocket pistols were made with five and six shot cylinders so there is a real likely hood that the Italians made copies of both.

If you want to read some good information on .31 caliber reproductions go to Capandballrevolvers.com. Click on the blog articles at the top of the page and then scroll down to .31. Gives you a great rundown on the history of most of the reproduction .31 caliber revolvers. The information isn't necessarily complete as the person doing the research passed away in 2018 but it is the most comprehensive source I have seen on these pistols. Dr. James H. Davis had been doing extensive research for many years on all the reproduction revolvers since the birth of the modern reproduction revolver in 1959 towards publishing a comprehensive book on them. His unfortunate death in 2018 caused a halt to his research. Can only hope someone takes up the matle and continues his work.

Not 100% positive, but I believe Pietta made the 1848-1849 31 caliber as a six shooter.

 

[AlexB]

Once I got my uberti wells Fargo deburred and properly assembled I am liking it quite a bit.
New out the box it was inoperable and needed a lot of work.
Was more of a kit than a finished piece.
Picked up a Turkish masc holster that should be here monday.

 

[camoloc]

Once I got my uberti wells Fargo deburred and properly assembled I am liking it quite a bit.
New out the box it was inoperable and needed a lot of work.
Was more of a kit than a finished piece.
Picked up a Turkish masc holster that should be here monday.

meticulously drilled a front sight for her tonight. not period correct but needed something for reference !!!!

used dremel drill at different speeds very carefully while puckering.

camo

 

[camoloc]

meticulously drilled a front sight for her tonight. not period correct but needed something for reference !!!!

used dremel drill at different speeds very carefully while puckering.

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camo

guess I should point out that I had to put a sight on due to previous owner cutting an "1 off the barrel.......at least they crowned it properly.

camo

 

[AlexB]

Looks like you did a good job.

 

[camoloc]

damn hammer was seizing up.

took the hammer to a nice Arkansas stone that I have for straight razors than thought better of it.

put the hammer on a stone cold straight Jasper stone from Natural Stones.......blasphemy in the straight razor world.

beaut of a stone that I spent a little $$$ on. it just paid for itself. problem solved!

end result: seizing cured.

camo

 

[camoloc]

damn hammer was seizing up.

took the hammer to a nice Arkansas stone that I have for straight razors than thought better of it.

put the hammer on a stone cold straight Jasper stone from Natural Stones.......blasphemy in the straight razor world.

beaut of a stone that I spent a little $$$ on. it just paid for itself. problem solved!

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end result: seizing cured.

camo

guess smooth working parts really do matter.

I kept circle honing until the 'grindy' feeling went away.

camo

 

[camoloc]

guess smooth working parts really do matter.

I kept circle honing until the 'grindy' feeling went away.

camo

nice barber sized Hone.

camo

 

[AlexB]

The .330 buckshot mold balls from lee shoot pretty well for roundballs ordered the .31 baby dragoon mold out of curiosity.

 

[AlexB]

Really like the mold for the baby dragoon bullets.
Throws very consistent bullets that are the correct size and cut a nice ring when loaded.
Seems to shoot really well POA at 7 yards with 10 grains pyrodex
Filed the cylinder hand quite a bit and now its running real smooth.