clueless about shot size

[eaglesnester]

Track of the wolf sells a mold that throws 18 .270 balls. I sort of thought that these molds would throw shot of about the right size for the bess. Bird shot and smaller buck is almost impossible to find up here in the northern interior of B.C. Canada. What weight of shot in ounces or grains should I load for small game with .270 balls or are they too large for grouse and such?

 

[Britsmoothy]

Way too big brother!
BB would be big for that job!
Your going to have to ship or fly it in!

It will be worth it though!

B.

 

[nwtradegun]

check ebay plenty of shot for sale or track of the wolf

 

[Loyalist Dave]

Here is a website with lots of information on Shot Sizes ...your .270 balls are #2 Buckshot :shocked2:.

You're probably looking at 1¼ ounces of #5 for rabbits and pheasants, and the same for #7½ size shot for the grouse, both using 70 grains of 2Fg. Your Bess is cylinder bore btw.

LD

 

[palonghunter]

.270" diameter is #2 buckshot. Good for coyote up to deer-sized animals at close range.

#4 shot (0.129" diameter, not to be confused with #4 buckshot, which is 0.240" diameter) is about as big as I'd go for small game. I usually use 5's or 6's.

 

[Alden]

Eagle;
There are plenty of resourcs on shot size for hunting what animals. As BP is going to be slower than smokeless I recommend going a size heavier.

No, .27 is a couple of CLASSES higher... LOL

 

[Lorne Johnson]

I use 7/8 ounce of 7 1/2 shot for grouse, but I've certainly heard of number 8 shot. They always come down when I hit them, and they never come down when I miss them.

 

[bpd303]

http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showtopic.php?tid/256786/

 

[Grandpa Ron]

A Bess is a 12 ga. So 1 1/8 of shot is about standard. It is also a cylinder bore.

I use #5 shot for pheasants, #6 shot for rabbits and #8 shot for quail.

I would start with #6 shot.

 

[Britsmoothy]

Eagle;
There are plenty of resourcs on shot size for hunting what animals. As BP is going to be slower than smokeless I recommend going a size heavier.

No, .27 is a couple of CLASSES higher... LOL

The assumption that a black powder gun is slower than a nitro gun and thus inferior is a now old useless red herring! One does not in my experience need to compensate by increasing a shot size!
My car is slower than my wife's. But it takes no longer to get somewhere in mine :hmm:

B

 

[coloradoclyde]

:hmm: :grin: op:

 

[19 16 6]

A while back I scored for cheap a lot of #3 shot. I have mixed it with #7 shot at about 1/3 of #3's : 2/3 #7's & it kills small game, hares , rabbits real good.
Better than either by itself I would say.
O.

 

[Grandpa Ron]

I shoot a round of Black Power cartridge for skeet about once a month, just for the fun of it.

Typical powder, nitro card, cushion wad and shot load, usually in a Federal plastic shell.

I do not notice the difference in the velocity but I really like the smoke and stink.

The biggest problem is that the cost is about twice that of a smokeless reload.

 

[robinsroost]

A while back I scored for cheap a lot of #3 shot. I have mixed it with #7 shot at about 1/3 of #3's : 2/3 #7's & it kills small game, hares , rabbits real good.
Better than either by itself I would say.
O.

I have never heard or seen #3 size lead shot, and it is not listed in Zonies table, as seen above, but it would be about 0.14. I also like to use a duplex load, usually 1/2, 4's, 5's or 6's and 1/2 8's, depending upon what I am hunting. I like the 4's for squirrels because they are tenacious of life and thick skinned. I also like them for wild turkeys. For rabbits and the smaller birds I like 6's and 8's. Keep yer powder dry.....Robin :wink:

 

[19 16 6]

I have never heard or seen #3 size lead shot, and it is not listed in Zonies table, as seen above, but it would be about 0.14.

I just measured some #3 shot & you are correct they mike at an average 5 thou under 0.14. So that is 0.135.
O.

 

[biliff]

A quick way to get the dimensions for a pellet is to subtract the shot size from 17 and move the decimal point over two places.

Example: For #9 shot, 17-9=8. Move the decimal point over two places to get .08"

A #3 pellet would be 17-3=14 or .14"

 

[coloradoclyde]

I shoot a round of Black Power cartridge for skeet about once a month, just for the fun of it.

Typical powder, nitro card, cushion wad and shot load, usually in a Federal plastic shell.

I do not notice the difference in the velocity but I really like the smoke and stink.

The biggest problem is that the cost is about twice that of a smokeless reload.

:thumbsup:

 

[GreyWhiskers]

A quick way to get the dimensions for a pellet is to subtract the shot size from 17 and move the decimal point over two places.

Example: For #9 shot, 17-9=8. Move the decimal point over two places to get .08"

A #3 pellet would be 17-3=14 or .14"

Interesting! :thumbsup:

 

[Joel/Calgary]

If nothing else, you should be able to mail-order it. One source would be Wil Bilozir, the Ballistic Products rep for Canada, at http://bilozir.net/reloading.htm. Dunno about ordering from Wholesale Sports or BassPro. You might try to find some other shotgunners and and throw in together to do a joint order. You but haven't said if you've looked already, but if you have any shotgun clubs near you, you might find somebody there who reloads and get some shot from them, or throw in on a joint order.

Regards,
Joel

 

[larryp]

Track of the wolf sells a mold that throws 18 .270 balls. I sort of thought that these molds would throw shot of about the right size for the bess. Bird shot and smaller buck is almost impossible to find up here in the northern interior of B.C. Canada. What weight of shot in ounces or grains should I load for small game with .270 balls or are they too large for grouse and such?

Where did you find it on their site? I've been wanting a #2 buckshot mold but search as I might I can't find where they have one.