colt style timing issue jam

[sethwyo]

Gun was made last year, hasn't been used much I've only put about 30 balls through it.

Has suddenly started having a problem, pull the hammer back about a quarter of an inch and the cylinder will NOT start to rotate.

The lift on the hammer is trying to push it up but the cylinder bolt catch is still holding it in place cuz it's not dropping down yet,

When pulling the hammer back if the cylinder is wiggled a little bit with my other hand it will rotate.

wondering if somebody here has dealt with this before and knows how to remedy it.

And if you don't know what I'm talking about or what's going on or what a handgun is please don't post on here

 

[Smokerr]

I do know what you are talking about and half had some tussles with it as well.

The plow-handles on the Bolt are indexed to a pin on the hammer. As the hammer moves the bolt should drop. The hand is a bit delayed to allow that movement on the bolt first.

After that it can be the plow-handle that indexes to the pin has an issue, the pin is put in wrong (there is a slope on it that allows the bolt to drop again.

Its a nasty problem as you can't see what is going on. I fixed one with a modified bolt and then got the right bolt and it did not work at all but my modified one works at least half decent.

 

[CaptainKirk]

Check your hand spring

 

[45D]

The best thing to do would be to take it apart and look at the cam on the hammer. Sounds like it may be half eaten away from the bolt arm sliding off the side of the cam ( instead of falling off the front). That condition may "try" to unlock the bolt which is why you can wiggle the cyl and get it to unlock. Won't know till ya look.

Mike

 

[kh54]

I was thinking of something simple such as a burr on the bolt or even fouling that has caused it to stick. I had a similar problem on one of my first Italian Colt clones. Being very new to even disassembling a Colt for cleaning I polished the edges and mating surfaces on each part including the frame using mostly 400 wet/dry paper. When I put it all back together the problem had magically disappeared. I now do that to every new gun I acquire and I’ve had no like issues since. Good luck!

 

[M. De Land]

The best thing to do would be to take it apart and look at the cam on the hammer. Sounds like it may be half eaten away from the bolt arm sliding off the side of the cam ( instead of falling off the front). That condition may "try" to unlock the bolt which is why you can wiggle the cyl and get it to unlock. Won't know till ya look.

Mike

That would be my first thought as well but in a new gun seems odd. It could also be a hand nose/ratchet fit issue I have run into before when fitting a new cylinder.
Generally this will only show up on one or two ratchet teeth and will need filing to remedy. I don't recommend ratchet tooth filing without some instruction as one can ruin a new cylinder in jig time with a sharp Barret file.

 

[sethwyo]

Thank you all for your replies

 

[Sam squanch]

I don’t know what’s going on or what a handgun is. But I’m posting anyway.

 

[sethwyo]

. . . . The gears on the cylinder catching in a cut in the frame right where the arm is at . . .

 

[Sam squanch]

You may benefit from sending your revolver to someone who specializes in these. There are a few on this forum.

 

[45D]

Just noticed that's a 5 shot pocket gun ( small frame). First of all, it's a 5 shot ( they're notorious for function problems!). Second, the wear "cut" on top of the hand is part of the problem. The hand needs to be smooth on top and slants slightly low to high ( inside to outside just like yours is). Just sand ( 320 paper on a flat surface) the top of the hand smooth again and it'll probably solve your problem.

Mike

 

[sethwyo]

A little work with the files seem to have solved the problem.
Now something else is happening when it's fired

 

[M. De Land]

A little work with the files seem to have solved the problem.
Now something else is happening when it's fired

Ah, working out the bugs is what makes it personally "YOUR" gun! Who wants a perfect gun anyway to start off with ............................ Hey, wait a minute, I do, for one !

 

[45D]

A little work with the files seem to have solved the problem.
Now something else is happening when it's fired

So what did you work on with the files? These posts should be learning experiences not some clandestine " I fixed it, lets move on" kind of thing . . .

Mike

 

[45D]

A little work with the files seem to have solved the problem.
Now something else is happening when it's fired

So, no response to your "fix" but you still post?

Ask for help, help ( hopefully) given. Fix accomplished ( maybe) with no explanation of . . . after being asked . . . You must be pretty young . . .
From all that responded, you're welcome!!

Mike

 

[Curtis Lee]

So, no response to your "fix" but you still post?

Ask for help, help ( hopefully) given. Fix accomplished ( maybe) with no explanation of . . . after being asked . . . You must be pretty young . . .
From all that responded, you're welcome!!

Mike

Yep Mike I would have like to know too. I just started reading and then what? The latch pin picture. It's kind a like in the 60's when AT THE END OF YOUR FAVORITE TV SHOW,they would say"STAY TUNED FOR NEXT WEEKS EPISODE TO FIND OUT IF BILLY JOE DIES".

 

[sethwyo]

stupid people lie, and liars are stupid

 

[denster]

stupid people lie, and liars are stupid

Well Mike looks like this is the only thank you forthcomming!