Conical for Uberti 1860 Army

[frogwalking]

Does anyone know where I can get conical bullets or a comparable mold for my 1860 Uberti Army? I think it requires .454 diameter rather than the more common .451. (I think)

 

Have you considered Lee molds? They are available thru outlets such as Dixie Gunworks and Track of the Wolf.

 

[M. De Land]

Might want to try some 45 ACP lead bullets. They are short , often flat ended, around 200grains and .452-.453 in diameter.MD

 

[krolick]

I tried Track but they were out of the .44 cal. conical molds. I found Midwest USA had .451 and .450 both in double and single cavity. I got the .450 - its 200 gr with 2 grease groves and a heeled base. I found that when loading these in the LeMat's cyl they do shave a ring of lead off when pressing into the cylinder, so I'm getting a good seal with easy loading. This bullet also fits my Uberti 3rd model dragoon in .44 cal. I recall paying $20.00 plus shipping for the mould. It got here in less then a week. Check them out. GS

 

[bpd303]

Sure that wasn't midwayusa? Buy from them all the time, couldn't find midwestusa.

 

[poordevil]

I have one of those 2 cavity molds, the very non- sophisticated type issued in cased sets back in the old days. The kind with a round ball and conical and made of brass. The bullets don't come out perfect, but I found the conical shoots to point of aim where the round ball shoots high.

 

[swathdiver]

The best are the Kaido 240 and 255 grain conicals. Last I heard he's out of stock on molds (Lee makes them for him) but can send you the conicals in the mail. Kaido [[email protected]]

 

[rodwha]

You could also find a caster who casts .45 cal bullets meant for gas checks.

Are you looking to buy conicals or a mold?

I know of a fellow who casts many projectiles for a reasonable fee. If you are interested send me a PM.

 

[nkbj]

Does anyone know where I can get conical bullets or a comparable mold for my 1860 Uberti Army? I think it requires .454 diameter rather than the more common .451. (I think)

When looking over the various choices, do consider the distance available from the front of the cylinder to the ram. There are some really nifty designs of .45 molds that just almost fit when ever you try them out. Having a rear end diameter that just barely slips into the chamber helps a lot. That usually means you size them yourself but, that's what making them is.

 

[DanChamberlain]

If you try casting your own, keep in mind that pure lead - appropriate for muzzleloaders will shrink when it cools over hard cast bullets. Hard cast will be darn hard to load and will not give you the obturation you're looking for in the rifling. Accuracy will probably suck.

If you order a mold, you should consider one that will drop an as cast bullet larger in diameter than the "ball" size your gun is bored for to account for the shrinkage.

 

the community standard for many years had been the Lee 45-200 (.450 diameter 200 gr).
But for most 1858, and colt 1851, -1860 these can be difficult to get started straight.
Working on this design I had a custom mould made.
it has a rebated base of .446 (most BP revolvers are .446 to .448 chamber).
Has a large grease groove and two sealing rings of .455 diameter, making it comparable to the .454 ball. Has a semi wad cutter type nose.
It is experimental.
But for me it is much easier to load. Is about 50 gr heavier than RB and groups at a realistic self defense range of 10 to 15 yards is more than acceptable. Haven't had a chance to try it out at longer ranges yet.
I don't get here often. You can pm rodwha or me.

 

[wb78963]

Eras Gone bullet Molds makes molds that copy the original bullets used in the War of Yankee Aggression. Mark Hubbs the owner is a shooter and historian.
Bunk

 

[bang]

I tried Track but they were out of the .44 cal. conical molds. I found Midwest USA had .451 and .450 both in double and single cavity. I got the .450 - its 200 gr with 2 grease groves and a heeled base. I found that when loading these in the LeMat's cyl they do shave a ring of lead off when pressing into the cylinder, so I'm getting a good seal with easy loading. This bullet also fits my Uberti 3rd model dragoon in .44 cal. I recall paying $20.00 plus shipping for the mould. It got here in less then a week. Check them out. GS

Get all my molds on ebay.

 

[bang]

Does anyone know where I can get conical bullets or a comparable mold for my 1860 Uberti Army? I think it requires .454 diameter rather than the more common .451. (I think)

Ebay has molds. Ignore using modern bullets. Stick with pure lead. That's the reccomended for BP guns. Harder lead is doable to a point for a patched ball because it doesn't contact the bore. Would not trust compressing harder than pure lead through the cone.

 

[Stantheman86]

Papercartridges.com sells Johnston & Dow conicals but they have a .460 "ring" on them. They are cast on an Eras Gone mold, if you want to try before you buy.

Those bullets were made for the 1860 Army.

I run them through a .454 sizer because they are hard to load in my Dragoon. Accuracy is very good.

 

[user 43911]

This thread is from 2013, the last time the OP was on the forum was 2016.
I was about to offer some Johnston & Dow bullets but checked first, not sure the OP is still looking at forum.

 

[Stantheman86]

Someone has recently been dragging up like 7-8 year old posts

I don't check the dates I just answer new stuff assuming it's current......

 

[nkbj]

If you like to tinker there's bunches of .45 molds that produce castings easily adaptable to lots of .44 reproductions. Not so for the .36 calibers seeing as nobody ever marketed a 3/8" Mag.
For .36's the think & tink is a little more involved but they seem to be easier to make accurate.