CVA Longrifle

[WindLaker]

To all,

I just picked up a CVA Longrifle for $20.00...too good of a deal to pass up. All the parts are there except for all the screws.

It is the rifle with the 2 Piece Stock; the one with the brass spacer at the joint.

My question is this. The stock has (2) pins in the back half of the stock. How is this stock joined? Epoxy it together? Are there more pieces missing than I know about that are used to join the stock?

If anyone has a "You Can Build It" book for this gun, I'd be willing to buy it.

I'd also consider buying a one-piece replacement stock for it, since I have so little invested in all the other parts, if the stock was mostly inletted (my skills are not up to inletting a lock, trigger, etc.).

Any input you guys have would be greatly appreciated.

WindLaker

 

Is this it?
If it is just push the two pieces togsther with the pins in place.
No need to glue.
When you pin the barrel it will all stay together.
Hope this helps.
Tom

 

[Many Klatch]

The forearm on a longrifle is just there to provide a place to hold the ramrod pipes. The wood is just hanging on the barrel anyway.

Many Klatch

 

[WindLaker]

That's it ???????

A lot easier than I thought.

Thanks a bunch.

WindLaker

 

[WindLaker]

Does anyone kow if a replacement (hopefully) one-piece stock is made for this.

Now that I'm looking a lot closer, the stock was pretty butched-up. I know they are sometines available on E-Bay.

WindLaker

 

[Zonie]

I don't know of a direct replacement for the stock except for the factory one and the only place I can think of that those might be available would be one of the Web places.
Of course the stock you buy on the web might be worse than the one you have. :hmm:

If you had a lot of experiance inletting locks, triggers, triggerguards etc, I might say that places like Pecatonica River[url] http://www.longrifles-pr.com/[/url] will sell you a rough carved stock with the barrel channel and ramrod hole pre-cut for about $90 for their plainest #1 Curly Maple full length stock or $55 for the #1 halfstock.
Their rough stock prices are in this link:[url] http://www.longrifles-pr.com/stockprices.shtml[/url]
If you bought one of these, you would have to cut the mortise for the lock, inlet the barrel tang and trigger, trigger guard, butt plate, sideplate and ramrod thimbols.
In other words, it would take quite a bit of woodworking.

On the plus side you would end up with a unique rifle which could be very nice and wouldn't have cost you much money.

On the negative side, You would have done a lot of work ending up with a rifle made with relatively low quality parts that most people wouldn't want to buy. Of course, if you didn't intend to sell your "First Rifle" that would be academic.

zonie

 

[faw3]

Im not sure just what they do and dont, the underhammer's GMWW and I got they did a lot more cutting makeing our stocks than they say, for me anyway and charged a fair price. Fred :hatsoff:

 

Just a suggestion.
You could do something like this.

 

[jasontn]

that was my first muzzleloader. i didnt like the stock either so i had a freind, im not good with wood, slice me off a piece from another old cva stock and we made a shim shaped the same as the brass one and glued/pinned it in place. another option is to wrap the seam with rawhide.

 

[cowpoke1955]

Check with Deer Creek. I had a Jukar Kentucky, which is the exact same rifle as your CVA. My rifle had a bore that was solid rust. I was ready to give up when some of the guys here suggested I contact Deer Creek. No web site, just a phone number (765) 525-6181. They carry all the old CVA traditional gear. I found a new barrel. Instead of a wall hanger, I have a nice shooter. I gave it to my son-in-law for his second muzzle loader. Deer Creek should have any missing parts and maybe even the instruction manual you are looking for. Good luck :thumbsup: .

 

[Mulebrain]

Heck of a deal for 20.00! I paid 100.00 for mine :grin:

 

[WindLaker]

Spent today looking at replacement stocks.

I can get a CVA replacement from Deer Creek for $73.00 + Shipping. Still not crazy about the 2 piece stock. An offshoot of jasontn's idea is to make a wood shim, and sort of cover up the joint with tacks.

I looked @ Zonie's reccomendation from Pecotonica River for $90.00 + Shipping. Not really sure if my skill set is up to inletting lock & triggers, but I LOVE the idea of a 1 piece stock.

Thanks for all the ideas. I'm not in a rush, so I'll mull over these options a while.

Thanks again,

WindLaker

 

[tg]

You could probably use the wood shim idea and feather it in and it would be nearly invisable, after filing the pores, sanding ,staining and finishing.

 

[Mulebrain]

I was thinking, which can be dangerous :grin: Why not put the stock together, and ship it to a shop with a stock duplicator machine? Is this a viable option, or just too costly :hmm: Or is the stock already offered from Pecatonica?

I sure would like to know because I would like one as well :thumbsup:

 

[brubincam]

wrap it with rawhide,,, :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[jasontn]

i just bought a traditions shenandoah with a one piece stock from[url] azmountainman.com[/url]. it looks just like the rifle you have. i compared it to a dressed out, patchbox and brass inlaid, verison of the gun today. the stock profile isnt anywhere near the same. maybe you could get a stock for this model. i have an early 80's vintage .45 cva kentcuky barrel here and the pins and drum line up perfectly on the traditions stock.

 

[rkeltner]

i did like you and picked one of these kits up from a yard sale, and like you, i despise the two piece stock; so i eliminated the brass spacer, made up a contrasting wooden spacer, and put it together permanently with epoxy, pins, and some juditious fitting. made the full stock kentucky into a half stock, too! :grin: