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[50cal.cliff]

I am trying to get together some accessories for my new kit a .54 Lyman GPR and have a couple of questions for any one else who might have one.

I think this rifle has a #11 nipple. Do any of you know for sure that it has a #11 nippple or am I wrong about this?

The nipple that came with my kit has two flat sides, for the nipple wrench to fit on, just like the one on my Traditons! Makes me think it is probably a #11!

What thread is it? Is it metric?

Also do you know if any of these nipple wrenches is the correct nipple wrench to fit a Lyman GPR 54 cal. http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(1...ries/partList.aspx?catID=1&subID=9&styleID=30 ?

Has any of you used this capper http://www.trackofthewolf.com/(S(1...ATID=1&SUBID=1&STYLEID=1&PARTNUM=CAPPER-REV-B
and what do you think of it?

Thanks for any help on this!

 

[Zonie]

Any of them that says it is made for a rifle will work just fine with your gun.

Yes, the nipples that come on a GPR are made for a #11 cap.
They also have a reputation of being rather crappy so if your going to buy a nipple wrench you would be wise to buy some after market nipples for your gun too.
Hot Shot, Spitfire, Ampco and stainless steel are all better than the Lyman nipple that comes on the gun.

The thread size for the GPR is M6 X .75
Just make sure the nipples you order are made for Rifles. There are also nipples made for pistols but they are too short to work on a rifle.

Ted Cash products are good. The capper you linked to is really made for a pistol but it can be used on a rifle as well.
I have several cappers but after messing around with them I found that just using my fingers to install the cap works as well or better.

To me, $20 sounds like a lot to pay for something I probably wouldn't use much.

Have you looked at the straight cappers? They usually are less expensive and if you stay with a good brand they may work fine.
I cannot recommend the cheap straight cappers though. At least for me the little spring usually ends up binding or trying to work its way out of the thing.

 

[Old40Rod]

Yes, should be a #11, mine is.

Yes, it is metric, 6-.75mm

I have used that type of Ted Cash capper (pistol) on mine, and it worked fine. I also bought the rifle type, which I find easier to handle: http://www.cabelas.com/link-12/product/0006419210328a.shtml

It looks like TOTW has nipple wrenches made for #11 nipples, but don't bet they will fit perfectly. I have a little different style made by TC I think, that has a wedge claw for pulling wedges. Its a bit loose on my GPR and Investarm Cabela hawken nipples, but its not a big problem.

[WOW! Zonie types faster than I]

 

[Otter]

#11 is the percussion cap size, not the nipple size. (There are different size nipples for the different size primers, but the #11 cap is what is "standard" for the GPR.) The nipple for a GPR has a 6-.75 mm thread (the thread screws into the snail). You put a cap on the nipple.

For a nipple wrench I prefer to pick up a small open-end wrench and grind/file it to fit whatever nipple I need to work on. Cheaper, it fits and gives better leverage to remove a stubborn nipple.

I started out using a straight, in-line capper. Next came the Tedd Cash "rifle" capper. Then I had a Walker and bought the Tedd Cash "pistol" capper (the one pictured in your link). It worked so well with the Walker I tried it on the rifle and now use it for everything. The Tedd Cash cappers have always been on the spendy side, but I've had both of mine for nearly 20 years and they still work as they did when brand new and as advertised . . . Well worth the money IMHO.

 

[catman]

Tedd Cash cappers are the best, never a problem.

 

[mazo kid]

Tedd Cash cappers ARE the best!! Can't say much for the cheaper knock-offs tho, usually not worth fooling with.

 

[cowpoke1955]

Congradulations on your kit and in a wonderful caliber. The first thing is to replace that factory nipple. I put a spit fire on my .54 GPR 28 years ago and it's still works great. I got my nipple wrench from Track, the one for rifle and shotgun with #11 nipple and it works fine.

 

[arquebus]

Also, one more thing with the nipples. Whenever you take a nipple out, for cleaning or whatever, put a small dab of Anti-Sieze on the threads. This will make taking it out much easier in the future. I buy my Anti-Sieze at the auto parts store.

 

[longcruise]

50cal.cliff
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Hmm should you be changing your name to 54cal.cliff?

 

[ohio ramrod]

for cappers I have found a leather capper works very well and is more moisture resistant than any metal capper I have seen commerically. I make my leather cappers by taking a strip of leather about 3/4 inch wide. punch 3/16 inch holes about 1/2 inch apart down the center, then take a sharp knife and cut v shaped notches in from one side to the punched hole. I then take two strips of leather about 1 and 1/2 inch wide and rivet them together with the 3/4 strip between them.This makes a nice capper since it encloses the caps between the two outer leather pieces until you pull out the center strip and then you can slide the cap over the nipple and pull the cap out sideways through the notches.I have used mine in steady rain and had caps left in the capper from one year to the next with no problems of the caps " drawing moisture " I patterened mine after one that was made by my neighbor's grandfather when I started shooting muzzle loaders in the sixties. By the way my neighbor was in his seventies then so you can guess how long ago his grandfather made his.

 

[Old40Rod]

I started out using a leather capper. Mine worked ok, but sticking caps into those teeny holes was beyond tolerance level. Since the caps are exposed you also have to be careful about moisture and handling.

The Ted Cash rifle capper is a champ.

 

[wvbuckbuster]

I agree with the others go with a Ted Cash capper and you won't be sorry. Have had one for several years and its still going strong!