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Hello All,

I ended up ordering the steel barrel doglock from MTVC:
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and while Dave of Dave's Outpost (the West Coast distributor for MTVC) didn't have one in stock he knew they were due in any time and set up a drop ship from Pete and Wendy of Middlesex. Things could not have gone any smoother as the guns came in the next day and MTVC shipped my blunderbuss on Tuesday of this week. Not bad :thumbsup: , not bad at all.

I'll whip up some buck and ball loads for it, and if the weather holds, I should be able to sneak it out to the range on Saturday while my wife is at dance class... (she doesn't know about this purchase... :redface:) The longer she doesn't know... the longer I get to live to enjoy my new smoothbore. :haha:

I'll do a full review to let you all know what I think.

Cheers for the melting North,

David
 
Ok, quick update.

For those of you hoping for a firearem built to the specs of a custom gun for under $500.00... It would be a good time to hit your "back button" as you would be disapointed.



For those of us who know what to expect from a Indian made firelock, please read on.

The Bunderbuss has a high Cool factor, it made my heart skip as I unboxed it.

The Lock has that clunky look of a early style firearm, the springs are stiff and strong, the frizzen is a ugly ducking in shape, but sparks like a firestorm... (this is the 3rd current made Indian flint lock that I've seen in the last 2 years and they all throw a firestorm of sparks that is far beyond what my 3 custom flintlocks can do...)

The cock is designed to throw the sparks right in to the middle of the pan. The pan has a nice depth to it. There is no waterproofing ridges to protect the priming charge from water( but I don't know it they were doing that yet in the 1690's)The frizzen is stiff to set, but flies forward smoothly when struck.

I have not been able to pull the lock off yet as I have to sneak around my wife with this firearm that she dosen't know about... :hmm:

The trigger pull is a nice 8 or so pounds :shocked2:, (I have had to do lock jobs on the other two Indian made flintsers I've seen lately as they were in the high 20-30 pounds for trigger pulls... one was LA the other was HM) The trigger on this is crisp with an nice clean break.

Bore is smooth and nicely polished in a .65 cal , the metal work is done well.the Cannon style muzzle is well done. Threads on screws are nice, but the workers tried to put that "pimp" bright Indian polish on all the parts... over tool marks, etc... :shake:... I'll just take that pimp finish down and acid gray all the metal.

Wood... ok, it's that fruit wood.... My gun has a sections of the stock that are damn nice, it looks like walnut, then the grain opens up to a very large size... most of the wood work is very nice, comb is nice, overall style is nice, but the workman left heavy rasp marks in the stock near the buttplate, broke out a few wood chips at the top of the butplate... :( and the fitting at the end of the breech and the ramrod entry into the stock is rough... it can be cleaned up with sharp tools and a bit of skill. The work around the lock is nice, but I have not yet pulled the lock to see what the wood work looks like under the lockplate.

The stock finish is a walnut look alike that was slopped on in some places and applied nicely elsewhere(It looks like it was applied with the gun assembled as some of the metal has stock finish on it). I just used a sanding pad to knock down the shine and the goop-up areas with fairly good results (long time goal is to refinish with a better finish).

The one odd thing about the fruit wood is that it absorbs the Indian stain in most parts of the stock but some places it just dries on the surface. I had a few spots where I had to "repaint" the wood with a dark walnut stain I had as the finish just peeled off with a simple touch leaving a stark white wood. :shocked2:

Now, after saying all of this... I think the new "buss" is cool. I like the way it handles, and I think it's a great gun for the money. :thumbsup:

Overall coolness factor. 10, Baby!

Lock work 9.0

Wood work 7.5 (but most problems can be fixed)

Metal work 8.0 ( It be higher if they didn't do the "pimp" polish, sigh...)

Once again, if you are hoping for a $2000.00 gun for $495, you would be disappointed. If you can live with a bit of rough wood workthat is fixable on this type of working gun, then it's a buy at $495.00

Don't forget, many sea faring guns had their stocks japanned, you can cover a lot of "sins" with a bit of black paint. I may do that with this one in time... but first, I need to get it to the range!

Cheers,

DT
 
Congrats on the new 'buss. Those things are cute as hell. Just wait until you get to shoot it. Those things throw a fireball that is you have to see to belive. Try it at night some time. You have to post a picture so we can all see your new baby. One thing though, that bit about not letting the wife know? Beeeg mistake, sooner or later she's going to notice the silly smile on your face and ask what you've been up to. I don't know about you, but my wife is waay smarter than me and catches me every time. :hatsoff:
 
Post Rider said:
I don't know about you, but my wife is waay smarter than me and catches me every time. :hatsoff:

Well... it's that, or NOT be able to buy anything as I "have as many guns as I'd ever need to shoot in my lifetime"... (Her viewpoint) :shake:

I hate to say I do this... but it's true.

She has not yet figured out the last 2 or 3 swords, the riveted maille shirt, the Colt 1851 Navy revolver, or a few of the other things I've slipped in to the closet yet over the last few years... (this is a policy I adopted 6 years ago after she wouldn't let me buy a "like new" TVM Early Virginia Flint Rifle in 50 cal for $450 with horns and pouch... lost out on it as she didn't think I needed another gun... :shake: )

I still don't have a early style long rifle...

Cheers,

David Teague
 
Sounds excellent for the reenacter!How early would you date the design of the lock action?Could it have been used during the earlier Jamestowne or later Plymouth settlements? :hmm:
 
I'm not sure spitfire as it's not my area of study... but they date the style to 1690... MVTC has a picture of the lock on the site...
so here it is. :winking:

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Now they did toss a flyer in the package, and the flyer did say something about spare locks for sale
every so often...

The more I clean up the wood and dull the metal, the better this baby looks! :thumbsup:

Didn't get it to the range this weekend... :( high winds, a bit of RAIN and 40 deg weather... :youcrazy:

Alaskan weather.. :shake:

But I did get all the makins for buck and ball.

I'll try to get some whipped up this week.

Cheers,

DT
 
Did they say how much these locks are? I've been after them to find what it would take to get a new lock for my Bess, and haven't had a reply in a while.
 
No... no pricing.

The flyer said to contact them for pricing and info... You might try contacting the nearest MVTC dealer to track a lock down for you as I understand that's the system they are tying to implement.

They have both of their dealers listed on their website.

Cheers,

DT
 
Yes, it called a dog... as in doglock.

This style action predates the true flintlock action as it has no half cock on the tumbler. It's the robust dog that allows you to carry this gun primed, the frizzen set, but not on full cock.

Cheers,

DT
 
David: Thanks soooo much for the report. I will be ordering one soon. Do you have a shot-size in mind to try out. Maybe a few .31 balls? :haha: Maybe try something at the 15-yard range first :hmm: Can't wait to hear your range report.
 
Well I just happen to have 100 .310 balls to use as buck and ball. :) and a 100 or so .648 RB that I just cast up after learning that the Bunderbuss was the same bore as my light fusil. :thumbsup:

It's nice having 2 belly boxes already set up for the same caliber. :winking:

My goal is to sneak out this weekend, so I'll be rolling paper cartrides this week after work and the gym and around making a new sword scabbard for a baskethilt broadsword that I have to have done before the weekend... :shake:

The more I play with the new gun, the cooler it is!

Cheers,

DT
 
David: Sounds like you and I are into the same stuff. Ancient firearms, chainmail, swords, etc. That should be a good buck & ball load to start with. I plan on using large pieces of poster board to see what pattern it will do. I'll pretend the posterboard is the deckboard of a ship :haha: Thanks again for your post. Have fun :thumbsup:
 
could you please supply a link to the site that you had bought the gun from?
Thanks
Craig
 
where can I go to see the inner workings of a dog lock? I am completely unfamiliar with the "inside" of a dog lock.
 
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