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Blackfingers

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New to smoothbores, wondering if drypatching can be the right thing to do. It's a flintlock musket, Indian. Says 62cal. but mics out to .640.
Thoughts, comments? All are welcomed. BF
 
Dry, un-lubed, ticking will work for the first shot if the patch/ball combination isn't to tight...But, you run the risk of getting the ball stuck on the reload and a un-lubed patch is likely to smolder and start a grass fire (or worse)in dry weather......

Is there a reason you don't want to lube?
Lubing has many benefits.....
 
Right you are clyde.

More than a few lubed patches wrapped around a ball have become stuck in a fouled bore.

A dry patch almost guarantees it will get stuck while reloading after the first shot is fired.
 
And patchs should be all natural fibers...and will smolder long after shot. Dont buy any fabric thats not 100% cotton or linen as it will melt. You can shhot greased chamois skin and reuse those patchs,...but always grease somehow.
 
My first indication there was something out of line was when I placed an over powder wad on the muzzle, it fell through before I could place the .060 ball on it. Later at the range, I used an .010 patch and ball on the muzzle, it fell down the bore, too. To save the day and not go home without having some fun, I began to use 2 patches and a ball with some good results, although my shots went all over the target. Getting home, I got my mic and found the bore at .640, instead of .620. Another issue was my jag kept losing the cleaning patch in the barrel. Fixed that with a 20ga. brush wrapped with a paper towel. Will order .610 balls and thicker pillow ticking, lubed of course. My last Indian gun. BF
 
the balls I shoot in my bess are small. I buy heavy cotton blue jean material, fits perfect for thumb start.
no dry patches the easiest is to spit patch it, you don't run out and no special recipes required.
 
I've mentioned this before, but I'll say it again here for what ever it is worth. The only time I have ever used a lubed patch was when I was hunting and needed to leave the rifle loaded all day, otherwise all I ever use is a well fitted patch that I stick in my mouth for a second or two before I need it, then load. I've shot with a number of shooters, all loading the same way, and we have shot well over 50 rounds each in a days shooting and never had any major difficulty loading shot to shot, never cleaned between shots, and accuracy was as good as it gets, meaning that it was as good as the shooter and the quality of the firearm. My patches, if home cut, are usually large enough to go well over the bore, snug the ball down into the bore and still have plenty of patch sticking out, usually comes up even with the top of the ball, or slightly below once the ball is started well into the muzzle, I've used round patches, and square patches, didn't seem to make much difference in my shooting, although I am not a great shot with anything. This is just the way I've always done it, don't have to worry about having a bunch of lubed patches to carry around, easy to grab a dry patch and stick it in my mouth while loading the powder, then slap it over the muzzle, push the ball down into it with my thumb, ram it down with the rod, prime or cap, and shoot, repeat, fun easy, and no mess, gun cleans up fine at the end of the day.
 
Dewey3 said:
I consider a spit patch as "lubed".
With spit !!!

I will even go as far as to say that....lubrication is the primary reason we have spit.....(try swallowing something dry with a dry mouth) :doh:

Yes!.....spit = lube :thumbsup:
 
learn how to make paper cartridges , once you do youll never look back,OH and lube them too to keep fouling soft ,beeswax and olive oil
 
In my opinion, the Indian gun manufacturer just uses metric tools (remember, only the US uses SAE). If they use a 16mm drill, that would end up to be a 0.6299 = 0.63 barrel. This is a standard common size and "affordable" drill bit, if you go a 10th millimeter higher, the caliber would be 0.6338 inches, but that drill bit would be much more expensive. And I think a micrometer is not the right tool to get the caliber right.
And then there are industry tolerances on drill bits as well....and that also applies to SAE sizes.
 
Hi, actually, I used a digital caliper. I got it right, should have done this earlier, but I must say, double-patching a .600 ball gives nice accuracy. I have .610 balls to use next time, double-patching should work better then. Will keep at it.
 

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