Dueling Pistols

[Jim Wag]

The Big Country
DISH
Channel 132
Today, 12:15 pm, Mountain ST

Towards the end of this movie
Gregory Peck
Shoots it out with
Chuck Connors!

Does anyone recognize the
Pistols?

Jim in La Luz

 

[Enfield58]

They looked like LePage Moutier dueling pistols. I always cringe when the hero drops an exquisite firearm in the dirt.

 

[andy52]

Well, I'd happily toss the pistol if I knew I'd just won Jean Simmons in a duel....

 

[Enfield58]

Well, I'd happily toss the pistol if I knew I'd just won Jean Simmons in a duel....

She left Greg a couple years later to marry Spartacus.

 

[andy52]

She left Greg a couple years later to marry Spartacus.

A few years would be good enough for me.... .
I do have the earlier version of those pistols in flint.
I always thought it was amusing when "Ruffus," told Greg he had been loading flintlocks and caps well before he was born.

 

[Enfield58]

Damn both @Jim Wag and @andy52 for ever bringing this subject up and showing those pistols!

Now I want a set. My Charles Moore pistols are not good enough now! I want more out of dueling!

 

[andy52]

Damn both @Jim Wag and @andy52 for ever bringing this subject up and showing those pistols!

Now I want a set. My Charles Moore pistols are not good enough now! I want more out of dueling!

My set of Le Page dueling pistols has never been fired, I always joke when people ask me about it I say " they will unfired unless someone challenges me to a duel".

 

[toot]

She left Greg a couple years later to marry Spartacus.

that is a step back in time! a long step.!

 

[Enfield58]

that is a step back in time! a long step.!

When you look as good as she did, you can do anything you want.

 

[andy52]

Damn both @Jim Wag and @andy52 for ever bringing this subject up and showing those pistols!

Now I want a set. My Charles Moore pistols are not good enough now! I want more out of dueling!

I consider the price I paid for the Le Page dueling flinters a bargain
but even at bargain prices, they are still weren't cheap.
The matched set cost right at 3000 new and I got them for 1800 unfired.

 

[Loja man]

I just watched this movie about 3 weeks ago! Beautiful pistols!!

 

[Cpt Flint]

Thanks for posting the clip from that movie. Burl Ives got an Oscar for his role.

 

[Enfield58]

Thanks for posting the clip from that movie. Burl Ives got an Oscar for his role.

I also never thought I'd see the Rifleman turn yellow

 

[Cpt Flint]

Gregory Peck said in an interview later that the script was not ready when filming had to start. Much of the dialogue was written day by day and scene to scene.

 

[griffiga]

The pistols look more like Mangs to me.

 

[11th corps]

They looked like LePage Moutier dueling pistols. I always cringe when the hero drops an exquisite firearm in the dirt.




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Dang, its hard to accept Chuck Connors as a bad guy. But I saw another old cowboy movie the other day where again he was the villain.
Nice pistols.

 

[Enfield58]

I don't agree with everything he says. In particular he advocates that dueling wasn't necessary about killing the other guy. In France and the US, duelists tended to be extremely serious about killing the other guy.

Nevertheless, he has some nice specimens to review.



Bonus video:

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
The guy in the first video has a lot of wrong information. The vast majority of fully evolved British dueling pistols had front and ear sights and the rear sights often had wide notches or "U" shaped notches for quick shooting, not target shooting. Here is a thread I posted on a pair of original Wogdon dueling pistols. It contains a lot of information on dueling at least in Britain.

https://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/threads/hail-wogdon-patron-of-the-leaden-death.150897/
dave

 

[Artificer]

Something I'm a bit confused from the second video where he talked about British Military Pistols in the 1770's time period still being roughly "carbine" bore of .66 cal or slightly less to accept the .62 caliber size ball cartridges. Though cavalry pistols were still made in that size to go along with the bore calibers of their carbines, I thought British Ordnance also issued .56 caliber pistols for "Land Service" by the mid 18th century?

Gus

 

[Artificer]

I don't agree with everything he says. In particular he advocates that dueling wasn't necessary about killing the other guy. In France and the US, duelists tended to be extremely serious about killing the other guy.

Nevertheless, he has some nice specimens to review.



Bonus video:

The early Wogdon Pistols described in the second video around 3:32 appear to me to be just a fine pair of gentleman's pistols, especially with their shorter size that could be for home defense or when traveling.

Gus