Water to clean, ATF to lube and protect. Both are common and cheap.
Dumping Ballistol and Gun Oil
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Yes, except only Cottonelle wins the trophy!!
BTW, for all you Packer fans, did you know that Green Bay is the "Toilet Paper Capital of the World"? That is ironic and poetic...esp for all us Anti-Packer fans...
Here's a link as to how they earned that "Honor"
https://www.greenbaypressgazette.co...ool-long-before-coronavirus-panic/5099763002/
Fluid Film get it at the local John Deere dealer in a spray can or a gallon can. Have used it for years doesn't hurt the inside or outside of the gun use it on front loaders and cartridge guns
Lowes also has Fluid Film
Ya gotta love it, 5-1/2 months and 10 pages and still going strong !!! 
BTW it's Dawn Liquid at your favorite warehouse + tap water at 110-1/2 degrees F to clean. You could use creek water if you want to save a few more centavos.
110 1/2* F water you say ? Darn it I've only been using 108 3/8* F water.
I use fluid film on our vehicle frames. It sticks on fairly thick. I assume you are wiping a thin coating down the bore. I believe fluid film is lanolin based, if that matters to anyone. It has a very unique smell. I have been using a product called tink seal on all my firearms. It is a nano lubricant that bonds with metal and leaves a dry film lubricant as it evaporates. Could be useful as patch lube, which I haven't tried yet. It is produced for the cvt transmissions in atv/utv. I was told that once it's on metal, it can not be removed by wiping it off. The more you wipe, the more it bonds with the metal and gets into the pores. All I know is it works great, even better, than other grease products I have used.
110-1/2 degrees F??? Rookie! You have destroyed your rifle!
-Red, knows it’s supposed to be 108-3/4…
mkabe
Gray Hawk
If you increase it you can cut 7 minutes & 37 seconds off the soak time!110 1/2* F water you say ? Darn it I've only been using 108 3/8* F water.
You will also decrease the useable lifespan of your rifle by 43%! Not a risk I’m willing to take!
Keep it below 109F people! It’s the safest thing to do!
-Red, full of facts and stuff…
Yes I'm destroying my rifle but I'm saving 2 patches using that extra heated water. Rifles gonna wear out in 100-200 years anyway!
Trying as hard as I can…
-Red, taking it all too casually…
Creek water is better as it is not treated with chlorine. May have some residue from fertilizer.
