Any positive or negative feedback is appreciated, I have a chance to buy a rather large amount...is it a synthetic like 777 or organic like goex?
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Dupont powder
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Lots more details needed. What kind of DuPont powder? Is it their old black powder or some new synthetic?
For example, I have a bunch of DuPont black from back in the early 1970's. I'd walk a long mile and spent a pretty penny to get more of it.
For example, I have a bunch of DuPont black from back in the early 1970's. I'd walk a long mile and spent a pretty penny to get more of it.
DuPont started making black powder in America in 1802.
Éleuthère Irénée du Pont brought the equipment and the technology to the US from France and quickly gained the reputation of making the best black powder in America.
Dupont sold their black powder manufacturing to Gearhart-Owen (GOEX) in 1972.
Although Dupont grew into a giant chemical company which makes thousands of different chemicals, they never made a synthetic black powder substitute.
Black powder can last for centuries without losing its power as long as it doesn't get wet or as long as it isn't subjected to temperatures over 170°F so, providing that the containers received some common care it should be as good as the day it was made.
As a side note, many of the really old DuPont black powder containers have some value as collectors items.
Even the cans they made as recently as 1960 can bring a few bucks from black powder shooters who want to have a small part of history sitting on their shelf.
Éleuthère Irénée du Pont brought the equipment and the technology to the US from France and quickly gained the reputation of making the best black powder in America.
Dupont sold their black powder manufacturing to Gearhart-Owen (GOEX) in 1972.
Although Dupont grew into a giant chemical company which makes thousands of different chemicals, they never made a synthetic black powder substitute.
Black powder can last for centuries without losing its power as long as it doesn't get wet or as long as it isn't subjected to temperatures over 170°F so, providing that the containers received some common care it should be as good as the day it was made.
As a side note, many of the really old DuPont black powder containers have some value as collectors items.
Even the cans they made as recently as 1960 can bring a few bucks from black powder shooters who want to have a small part of history sitting on their shelf.
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If it is black powder, then it is "organic" (charcoal, sulfer, saltpeter), and should work well in muzzleloaders if kept properly.
However, I hope you are aware that Dupont stayed in the smokeless powder industry for quite a bit longer than with black, early 2000s if I recall correctly, and smokeless and muzzleloaders don't mix. :shake:
However, I hope you are aware that Dupont stayed in the smokeless powder industry for quite a bit longer than with black, early 2000s if I recall correctly, and smokeless and muzzleloaders don't mix. :shake:
Make sure it is not IMR powder (Improved Military Rifle - smokeless).
As Zonie said - DuPont hasn't made blackpowder under their brand since 1972.
PS - nitrocellulose Triple Se7en, and modern "synthetic" powder is still very much organic. They just use Benzoate and Perchlorate as well. No less organic than Potassium Nitrate or silver. In fact, glycerine is very organic. C3H8O3. "Organic" just means it contains carbon compounds or is obtained from living things.
As Zonie said - DuPont hasn't made blackpowder under their brand since 1972.
PS - nitrocellulose Triple Se7en, and modern "synthetic" powder is still very much organic. They just use Benzoate and Perchlorate as well. No less organic than Potassium Nitrate or silver. In fact, glycerine is very organic. C3H8O3. "Organic" just means it contains carbon compounds or is obtained from living things.
The guy who I am purchasing this from has been shooting black powder rifles longer than I've been on this earth...he said its black powder, I know that smokeless powder and bp rifles don't mix...thanks for that. I was just curious as to the quality, I don't want to get stuck with 30 lbs of crappy powder..
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S.kenton said:
At least as good as Goex in my comparisons. Hard to measure "better" when I'm happy with both.
As for 30#, that's a score. Grab it! :applause:
Used to be great stuff. If he has been storing it in medium to cool temperatures without a lot of rapid changes, unopened, for the last 44 years or more you should be good.
DuPont worked well enough in the Civil War, Spanish American War, WWI & WWII. ;-)
DuPont worked well enough in the Civil War, Spanish American War, WWI & WWII. ;-)
Gotcha.... I think I will.
Thanks guys!
Thanks guys!
jackley
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About 2 months ago I bought a 25lb. can of new old stock Dupont 2f for $4.00 a lb. shoots just fine. Been using it in a 12ga. double and a 62 cal. flint rifle.
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Stumpkiller said:
Or that it costs three times as much in the produce section. :haha:
This use to be true but the cost between the two are close to equal now (orqanic coming down in price and the other going up in price due to pesticide cost/issues rising) and soon you will only find organic veggies in the grocery stores - I got this info from my local veggie dealer :v .
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DuPont also made a killing selling there powder at Rendezvous at a very high price.
S.kenton said:
Age has ruined it, it is rotten, awful, wuthluss stuff. :barf: What is your address? I'll be right over to take it off your hands. :wink:
Really, lucky you. Some old timers would kill to get a haul like that. Save the cans, they are highly collectible by themselves.
Awesome! I'll for save the cans....thanks
S.kenton said:
No, no. :shocked2: Use it first. Good stuff.
I meant I will use use the powder and save the cans.. Stupid iPad....i really need to start proofreading my posts..lol
