E.M.F. 1860 Snub Nose revolver

[rodwha]

I'm curious as to whether or not you'll include a sheet/towel to see if any unburnt powder is ejected when fired, and at what point that will be (within reason)?

 

[hawkeye2]

Gas was about $.30/gal at the time and I am not trying to "outpoor" anyone! :v The point I have been trying to make is that the revolver is made using parts, the most of which, have been in production for years and can be assembled in such a manner as to produce a gun that can be sold profitably for a lot less. The short barrel is not a new item and has been an offering on and off for years. The grip frame and grips are new to the American market as far as I know but have been offered by Pietta in Europe previously and could possibly be found on their '73 clone too though I don't know that for sure. Basically this is a rehash of an existing gun and not a new design nor a more complicated item to manufacture such as a Star or LeMat. I realize this is a relatively limited production revolver and asking a slightly higher price isn't out of line but it is my personal opinion that the price I saw is simply too much.

 

[nkbj]

I remember cheap gas. And on the floorboard of my truck was a... short starter! :haha:

 

I do believe Pietta had a model just like that out several years back but as far as I know its been discontinued.

 

[Wes/Tex]

And gas used to be 75 cents a gallon.

And before that it was 18 cents! :wink:

I got a '58 Remington some years ago because it'd been in a flood in an Austin shop and the front half, or more, of the barrel was very badly rusted and pitted. Time for the hacksaw! Had to solder a half-moon shaped key on a one inch barrel but it shot right to point of aim. I'd say to look around and find a cheap one to turn into "Mr. Shorty"!

 

[M. De Land]

As long as we are off topic once again price is meaningless, what is important is buying power as a ratio of what one makes to what something costs.
Now days it is almost always easier to afford things that were completely out of reach decades ago , even though the item cost lots more because the ratio of income to purchase cost is much more in our favor.
When a gun cost 30.00 a hundred and twenty five years ago we think wow that was cheap but what is forgotten is that a dollar per day was considered a pretty good wadge. Now I can make more than twice that purchase price in an hour on a glass job so what used to take a man months to save up for now takes a fraction of the time in most cases even though the purchase cost is much more. MD

 

[F.G. Ford]

Yeah, that is what my income seems to be $1.00 a day!
Fred

 

[Tater John]

I can't wait to see how it does at the range next week. I'll keep you all informed.

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Me either. Get your chores done, It's next week. :thumbsup:

 

[Wes/Tex]

Oddly enough, this style M.1860 (sans wanna-by "Lightning/Thunderer" grip frame) was actually used by a couple notorious old west types. Charles Bolton, alias Charles Boles, alias Black Bart, terrorized the California Wells Fargo stage line from 1875 till 1883 and had one virtually the same length but with the standard grip as a hide out/back up. Another, although actually a cartridge conversion (Richards-Mason type in .44 Colt)of the 1860 was carried by Dallas Stoudenmire during his stint as marshal of El Paso. During his last fracas, Dallas got into a free for all with Felix & Jim Manning , apparently no relation to Peyton & Eli :haha: ). Dallas got hit in the left arm & chest but knocked down by a hit to the folded papers and tintype in his coat, Felix took one to his right hand from the cut down 1860, and Jim got Dallas through the noggin after Felix threw his arms around the marshal and held him up for the coup-de-gras...not like on Gunsmoke, huh?

 

[Tater John]

Interesting :thumbsup:

So I wonder how the duelist's range report is coming along?

 

[Long Johns Wolf]

I suggest you use an external loading press. Mine has a 4" barrel.
For me this type of loading rod is for looks only but just does not work.
It's fun to shoot the pistol, however. Mine is connecting 2" slightly low and to the left of POA
at 15 yards.
Long Johns Wolf

 

[Tater John]

"Mine is connecting 2" slightly low and to the left of POA at 15 yards."

Pretty good if you asked me. Is your 4" a custom modify or factory?

My press is in the garage which I use to load a 5" ROA. I shoot in the backyard. If I was carrying a snub in woods I wouldn't be there to blast the place up in the first place so reloading wouldn't be an issue.

 

[Long Johns Wolf]

Mine is a 2009 custom rebuilt called FROCS Special of the famous Centaure 4" barrel Pocket Army Model. The latter was sold during the early 1960s by Centennial Arms Corp. of Lincolnwood, IL.
Tested her on the long-range recently like on 25 and 50 m. Disappointing, too much drop of these round balls, ha.
Long Johns Wolf

 

[flibuste]

Hello,

In France this gun is available since 2009.

And it shoots :

6 shots at 25 meters :

it can be slighly modified :

One can also adapt another barrel :

Very pleasant and accurate pistol........

 

[Long Johns Wolf]

Congrats, excellent shooting.
Long Johns Wolf

 

[duelist1954]

I had E.M.F.’s 1860 Army Snub Nose in house for my black
powder column in "Guns of the Old West", so I thought I’d use it, along with my personal cut down 1860 Army revolver to do a belly gun video.

I got ambitious and tried to incorporate a little mini-movie
scene, but, as you’ll see in the video, that did not go exactly as planned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anOkY6DE8Ms

 

[duelist1954]

Sorry for the delay. I got tied up writing the Guns of the Old West Article. Her's the range report

I tested the E.M.F. Snub Nose at a distance of seven yards, because, let’s face it, this is not a long range, precision tool. It is a blunt instrument, meant to save your life across the length of a card table. And, as such it is very effective.

At seven yards, shooting round balls over my 30-grain powder charge, I shot groups that measured less than two inches in diameter. My best group was one and three-eighths inches across.

For comparative purposes I also shot the same load at that range from a full-length Pietta 1860 Army revolver. My best group with the long barrel measured three quarters of an inch.


In the standard 1860 Army revolver with an eight inch barrel, that load gives an average velocity of 685 feet per second. In contrast, the E.M.F. Snub Nose, with its three-inch barrel, had a 25 percent velocity loss compared to its big brother, turning in an average speed of only 516 feet per second.

That’s slow, but I sure wouldn’t want to get shot by one.

 

[rodwha]

I'm curious if that short barrel is capable of burning all of that powder.

 

[hawkeye2]

Probably not but muzzle flash and smoke = fun! That's what those shorties are all about and powder is cheap. :grin:

 

[Don]

I'd like to see some chronograph data on that short barreled little gem.

Don