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I really like to think that if such were the case it would surely be justice delayed but justice rendered nonetheless.

Not to change the subject, but the majority of the Sioux, Northern Cheyenne, and Arapahoe who fought at the Little Bighorn used repeating rifles. Custer's fatal wound sounded like it was self inflicted from the description that I read of his wounds.

Back to the original post. I seem to have a problem of unexpected expenses arising whenever I manage to save the money for this gun, but I am determined to get it, eventually. I just don't know if I'll be able to stand the wait once I've actually placed the order.


Beg to differ: Below excerpted from:
http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:mn_v3...+guns&hl=en

"Probably the most common Indian weapon at the Little Bighorn was a cap-lock trading smoothbore musket or sometimes rifled muzzle-loaders of around .52 calibre. These guns were crudely made for Indian trade and were given out as a sweetener for treaties. Trade guns were made up until the 1880s by such gunsmiths as Henry Leman, J.P. Lower and J. Henry & Son. Many trade guns would have been cut down to carbine length..."
 
"Probably the most common Indian weapon at the Little Bighorn was a cap-lock trading smoothbore musket or sometimes rifled muzzle-loaders of around .52 calibre. These guns were crudely made for Indian trade and were given out as a sweetener for treaties. Trade guns were made up until the 1880s by such gunsmiths as Henry Leman, J.P. Lower and J. Henry & Son. Many trade guns would have been cut down to carbine length..."

The trade guns were definitely still around. My information came from the 7th Cavalry's official history, which I had to study for promotion boards when I was serving in the 7th Cavalry. If my information about the most common weapons being repeaters is wrong, it isn't the first time that I got inaccurate information from the Army :redface:(It started as soon as I walked into a recruiter's office).

I'll have to do more research because now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure their information was based heavily on the number of cartridge cases that were recovered from the battlefield. I think that may be a little bit misleading. I'm sure at least that the Indians had more repeaters than the 7th Cavalry did :boohoo:.
 
according to Hudson Bay Co. records the last trade guns to be brought into Canada during the 1920s. i got that info years ago from a fellow in management in winnipeg.
trade guns are still floating around gun shows here, some in rough shape, some cut down, some are still servicable.
the ones i have seen are 1/2 stocks. i've never seen an original full stock trade gun anywhere but a museum.
 
I have a 3rd model Bess, possibly original(the lock is authentic, the stock is OLD to the point of crumbling, the barrel is unmarked), which has been cut off at some point of it's long life. I has a 30" barrel, 1/2 stock with a brass nose cap which appears to be poured. I have no great stories to prove anything and neither did the feller I got it from.But, it looks great hanging on the wall in my 1922 carbine scabbard and does a fair & fun job on clay birds. Bill/Oregon
 
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