Early Lyman 1858 Remington made by Uberti ?

[jonathan butcher]

Am looking at an early 70's Lyman Middlefield Conn. 1858 Remington revolver, was Lyman made by Uberti in the early 70's ? The bottom of the barrel is marked "DGG" I'm asking because I wouldn't want to buy a Lyman 1858 Remington revolver I couldn't find parts for if needed.

 

[Grenadier1758]

DGG is Armi San Paulo / Euroarms.

 

[sourdough]

^^^^ This.

Forget about ASP parts. Non-available. Euroarms did not enter the picture until the late 1990's when they bought out ASP. If you are brave, you might get Uberti parts to work with some fitting, but since your revolver in question is pre-CNC stuff, both Uberti and Pietta CNC parts don't fit well with even their own pre-CNC stuff.

If the revolver in question functions well, that is a plus. I recently won at auction a Dixie Gun Works 1858 Remington marked ".44 New Model Army" and stamped DGG on the underside of the barrel. I don't think it has ever been fired as the load lever is stiff, the cylinder pin is very tight, and the bore is very nice. It even takes some effort to remove the cylinder.

In the end, it is all a crap shoot. Sometimes you win, sometimes not.

Regards,

Jim

 

[jonathan butcher]

Thanks Jim, very helpful info, am glad I posted here. I have to say I wish I were a better amateur gunsmith on these cap and ball revolvers, seems like it’s a requirement.

^^^^ This.

Forget about ASP parts. Non-available. Euroarms did not enter the picture until the late 1990's when they bought out ASP. If you are brave, you might get Uberti parts to work with some fitting, but since your revolver in question is pre-CNC stuff, both Uberti and Pietta CNC parts don't fit well with even their own pre-CNC stuff.

If the revolver in question functions well, that is a plus. I recently won at auction a Dixie Gun Works 1858 Remington marked ".44 New Model Army" and stamped DGG on the underside of the barrel. I don't think it has ever been fired as the load lever is stiff, the cylinder pin is very tight, and the bore is very nice. It even takes some effort to remove the cylinder.

In the end, it is all a crap shoot. Sometimes you win, sometimes not.

Regards,

Jim

 

[sourdough]

Thanks Jim, very helpful info, am glad I posted here. I have to say I wish I were a better amateur gunsmith on these cap and ball revolvers, seems like it’s a requirement.

These guns aren't modern cartridge guns like S&W, Ruger, et al with drop in parts. Early on they were made in small Northern Italian shops, tolerances were vastly different, even though at first glance they all looked alike. There was even a consortium in the 70's-80's named C.O.M., wherein the small shops would manufacture different parts and C.O.M. would assemble them under the C.O.M. brand so as none of the small manufacturers would be held liable for inferior parts, and C.O.M. would bear the brunt of any imperfections. Needless to say, C.O.M. only lasted a few years.

Before Pietta went to CNC machining ~2002, they subcontracted parts from small shops and then hand-fitted them to produce a marketable firearm. That is why Pietta pre CNC guns are hard to find parts that fit.

Regards,

Jim

 

[smoothshooter]

These guns aren't modern cartridge guns like S&W, Ruger, et al with drop in parts. Early on they were made in small Northern Italian shops, tolerances were vastly different, even though at first glance they all looked alike. There was even a consortium in the 70's-80's named C.O.M., wherein the small shops would manufacture different parts and C.O.M. would assemble them under the C.O.M. brand so as none of the small manufacturers would be held liable for inferior parts, and C.O.M. would bear the brunt of any imperfections. Needless to say, C.O.M. only lasted a few years.

Before Pietta went to CNC machining ~2002, they subcontracted parts from small shops and then hand-fitted them to produce a marketable firearm. That is why Pietta pre CNC guns are hard to find parts that fit.

Regards,

Jim

When did Uberti go CNC?

 

[sourdough]

At about the same time.

 

[Pipe welder John]

^^^^ This.

Forget about ASP parts. Non-available. Euroarms did not enter the picture until the late 1990's when they bought out ASP. If you are brave, you might get Uberti parts to work with some fitting, but since your revolver in question is pre-CNC stuff, both Uberti and Pietta CNC parts don't fit well with even their own pre-CNC stuff.

If the revolver in question functions well, that is a plus. I recently won at auction a Dixie Gun Works 1858 Remington marked ".44 New Model Army" and stamped DGG on the underside of the barrel. I don't think it has ever been fired as the load lever is stiff, the cylinder pin is very tight, and the bore is very nice. It even takes some effort to remove the cylinder.

In the end, it is all a manure shoot. Sometimes you win, sometimes not.

Regards,

Jim

I have a1863 new model army by Lyman unfired
With
The box powder flask and nipple wrench I got for like 20$ ain’t got a chance to try
To it out yet also got a brass framed 32. CVA brass framed sheriff model no trigger guard don’t know who it’s made by unified also from italy