English Gun Makers Trade Labels

[Feltwad]

You will find that from the late Flintlock and the percussion period a large majority of English gun makers supplied their shotguns rifle and pistols with a fitted mahogany case. This did not only apply to the London and top gun makers but also to the provincial gun makers . Enclosed are images of just a few.
Feltwad
Lancaster Label

Henry Nock

J.Hammond

Thomas Turner

Moore and Grey

Manton and Co

Westley Richards

 

[Feltwad]

Also added the gun cases
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Forsyth and Co

R.Booth

Samual Nock

 

[fleener]

https://www.peterdyson.co.uk/acatalog/TRADE_LABELS.html

If someone is looking for one, Peter Dyson has reproduction labels that are already aged.

A couple of years ago I purchased 2 for fitted cases I was making for a couple of rifles.

Fleener

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
Thanks for posting Feltwad.
Here is mine:

dave

 

[Grenadier1758]

Feltwad,

Thank you very much for providing the gun case labels.

I find Nock's label very interesting. Its not only the details of the powder chamber but the length of the threads on the breech plug. They are much longer than I would have expected.

Mike

 

[Feltwad]

Hi,
Thanks for posting Feltwad.
Here is mine:

dave

Interesting pair of pistols are the barrels Damascus or just sham ,that trade label is just the job add a few tea stains for age
Feltwad

 

[TFoley]

Not necessarily 'Damascus', but stub twist. The tighter the spiral, the higher the count of stubs twisted into the manufacture, and therefore the quality. There is a great movie on Youtube about making such a barrel.

There is a world of difference between an average run-of-the-mill shotgun barrel, made to be as light as possible and made by this method, and a top-grade m/l double rifle, also made with a stub-twist barrel. You simply have to look at capandball's many movies to see the incredible quality and dimensional thickness- of guns that HE is happy to put up to his face and shoot.

tac

 

[TFoley]

Beautiful. :thumbsup: :bow:

Thanks for posting.

tac

 

[Feltwad]

Not necessarily 'Damascus', but stub twist. The tighter the spiral, the higher the count of stubs twisted into the manufacture, and therefore the quality. There is a great movie on Youtube about making such a barrel.

There is a world of difference between an average run-of-the-mill shotgun barrel, made to be as light as possible and made by this method, and a top-grade m/l double rifle, also made with a stub-twist barrel. You simply have to look at capandball's many movies to see the incredible quality and dimensional thickness- of guns that HE is happy to put up to his face and shoot.

tac

There seems to be a difference between UK stub twist and the stub twist which you have described ,are the metals different ?
Feltwad

 

[TFoley]

Dunno. You seem to be the expert here, not me. I'm just an interested side-liner who has watched the Youtube video. :surrender:

This gentleman certainly seem to be utilising two different types of steel, and actually says so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7eacS2oDcs

tac

 

[Feltwad]

This is the modern way 1 iron 1 steel the original way could be 2,3,or more stub twist which was heated and hammered till it was like a ruler .It then was wrapped around a mandrel and then the seams were hammer forged .Most of a shotgun barrel of 30 inch were made of 3 separate parts and joined . If you look at a shotgun barrel you can often see join, the term stub twist is a barrel made from iron and steel with horse shoe nails been one of the metals used.
Feltwad

 

[TFoley]

Thanks for the elucidation. :thumbsup:

tac