English trade knife?

[Banjoman]

Got these knives in a trade with some other stuff. I don’t know who made them or what steel or wood was used. They seem to be good knives, but I haven’t put them to work yet.

Would these be considered English trade knives? If not, what? And maybe what time period would they represent?

They are pinned (2 pins) but the painted handles make pins hard to see.

 

[Jaeger]

Look like reasonably correct styles. All you need to do is get that paint off the scales so you can see the wood and pins.

 

[Banjoman]

Thanks. I agree with taking off the paint.

 

[Tumbledown]

Paint might make for a poor grip when wet, something you don't want with a knife.

 

[LRB]

Got these knives in a trade with some other stuff. I don’t know who made them or what steel or wood was used. They seem to be good knives, but I haven’t put them to work yet.

Would these be considered English trade knives? If not, what? And maybe what time period would they represent?

They are pinned (2 pins) but the painted handles make pins hard to see.

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Got these knives in a trade with some other stuff. I don’t know who made them or what steel or wood was used. They seem to be good knives, but I haven’t put them to work yet.

Would these be considered English trade knives? If not, what? And maybe what time period would they represent?

They are pinned (2 pins) but the painted handles make pins hard to see.

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[LRB]

Not typical English, but better than some. English would typically have three small diameter pins in a line and an 80°/85° give or take, straight choil. An inward C choil would not be common. A rounded choil would be more French style.

 

[Banjoman]

Got er dun

 

[Artificer]

Got these knives in a trade with some other stuff. I don’t know who made them or what steel or wood was used. They seem to be good knives, but I haven’t put them to work yet.

Would these be considered English trade knives? If not, what? And maybe what time period would they represent?

They are pinned (2 pins) but the painted handles make pins hard to see.

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FWIW, I strongly suspect they are "Indian Trade Knives" sold by Clay Smith in the past. The styles of blades and grips changed a bit over the years and or different ones at the same time. Clay always advertised them as foreign made blades, but of decent steel.

To see what he has left, scroll down here:
https://claysmithguns.com/knives_fixed.htm

Gus

 

[Banjoman]

FWIW, I strongly suspect they are "Indian Trade Knives" sold by Clay Smith in the past. The styles of blades and grips changed a bit over the years and or different ones at the same time. Clay always advertised them as foreign made blades, but of decent steel.

To see what he has left, scroll down here:
https://claysmithguns.com/knives_fixed.htm

Gus

Thanks! You may be right. The paint sure does match. These knives are very light and I’ve started carrying one a little to see how it holds up.