Estate Assistance with origin of Rev War Musket

[Inherited Guns]

I'm working of behalf of a client to ID a heirloom that appears at first blush to be a French pattern contract made German musket. Would this have been used by Hessian or Colonial troops??

.70 Caliber, OAL 57.5", 42" round barrel, 6.5" rounded lock w/ "WK" Hennenberg/Suhl proof.

Any scholarly assistance from the membership would be welcome!

Cheers,
JWD

 

[Pukatea Bay Boy]

Kia Ora ( Hello) I'm sorry I can offer no assistance. But what a beautiful rifle. Incredible condition.
Great find
Have a great day
Nga mihi
Kind regards.

 

[Conquerordie]

Looks 1770's to 1780's to me. Could it have been here, yes. Could it have came here in the 1940s after WWII, yes. It would have been newly made at the time of the Revolution, so if it came here, it probably would have been with German troops, not necessarily Hessians. German troops from several principalities fought here, they all didn't carry the same type of musket, and they all were not Hessians. It's a very nice musket, but without definite association, best you can say is a German musket made during the time period of the Revolution. IMHO.

 

[Inherited Guns]

Looks 1770's to 1780's to me. Could it have been here, yes. Could it have came here in the 1940s after WWII, yes. It would have been newly made at the time of the Revolution, so if it came here, it probably would have been with German troops, not necessarily Hessians. German troops from several principalities fought here, they all didn't carry the same type of musket, and they all were not Hessians. It's a very nice musket, but without definite association, best you can say is a German musket made during the time period of the Revolution. IMHO.

Thanks for the HO Conqueordie.
All that have weighed in agree with time period and Country.
Could not ID lock/bbl maker stamps in “Stockel” and keeping fingers crossed that others will recognize marks/configuration and post examples of same?
It certainly is an interesting hodgepodge of Men and Arms that determined the course of our nation’s history during the Revolution!

 

[Relic shooter]

Nice French Styled musket !
Workmanship is not up to French standards & the unusual markings indicate it may have been made India ?

 

[Va.Manuf.06]

Dutch.

 

[Flintlock1640]

The chicken mark on the lock is Suhl arsenal, German.

 

[dave_person]

Hi,
I am reasonably certain it is a Dutch or Belgian made musket. Don't be fooled by the barrel marked "Suhl". Those barrels were traded all over Europe and were frequently used on guns made in Holland and Liege. The stock looks Dutch and so does the lock and butt plate with massive screws. The barrel bands look like those on some Dutch guns but the odd thing is they look to be iron not brass. However, there is so much variation in guns made in the "low countries" who knows. If all the components are authentic it could certainly be a gun used in our Rev War. Some German mercenaries were issued generic European-made muskets including Dutch guns but many Dutch guns were also sent to American colonists so who used it if it was in the AWI is open to question. It is complicated by the common practice in both Liege and Holland to combine older musket parts into new guns for export.

dave