Euroarms 1851 Navy Colt

[Colonial Boy]

Have just bought a Euroarms Navy, in the very non-navy calibre of .44, but the price was right, in fact more than, if it lives up to the description given.
I’m buying on the net, through a respected site, and have every confidence it will live up to the description; will know possibly by the end of the week, depending on speed of dispatch and the postal service.
Bonus: there is a leather holster and postage included in the price.

 

[TDM]

Photos when able if you please.

 

[Colonial Boy]

Photos when able if you please.

Will do and with pleasure, if it’s as described.

 

[Colonial Boy]

Thought that I’d have been able to post some photos by now but incompetence raised its ugly head and I expect to see it by Wednesday (fingers crossed).
When it hadn’t arrived by last Thursday, the Club Armourer (he handles the legal side of transfers) gave the dealer a ring.
”Ah!Yair, we wondered where that money came from.”
He pointed out that the payment was accompanied by full details.
”OK, we’ll get right on to it an’ get it in the post.”

Hopefully they did.

When I was in the same sort of business dispatch was a priority.

 

[SOLANCO]

Used to be good help was hard to find. These days any sort of help is hard to find.
You know the job market is tight when half the advertising on the paper place mat at the diner is help wanted.

 

[Colonial Boy]

Well they certainly did get it in the post, arrived at the local Post Office this morning.
Beautifully packaged, wrapped in bubble wrap and protected either side with small cartons, full marks.
The pistol appears to be everything the seller claimed and looks unfired.
I now must wait for the ‘PTA’ (Permit to Acquire) to arrive before it’s formally mine and I can take it to the range.

The unbranded holster isn’t bad at all but can do with some leather dressing

 

[TDM]

It looks Great! Hope you enjoy it.

 

[Colonial Boy]

Thanks TDM.
I forgot to mention the price, $450 all up, including postage,(that’s $302 of your more valuable dollars.).
Here’s a pic of the package, besides the stout cardboard box it was double wrapped in tight plastic.

 

[Colonial Boy]

Just gave the holster its first taste of dressing in a while, also removed the tie down as I’ll be wearing it at the waist at the range.

 

[SwanShot]

Thanks TDM.
I forgot to mention the price, $450 all up, including postage,(that’s $302 of your more valuable dollars.).
Here’s a pic of the package, besides the stout cardboard box it was double wrapped in tight plastic.
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That's interesting, We can't. (WA) ship to a person, only to a dealer, so to get what you did I would have to go to a dealer to get it in for me. Oh yeah---well done mate.

 

[Colonial Boy]

That's interesting, We can't. (WA) ship to a person, only to a dealer, so to get what you did I would have to go to a dealer to get it in for me. Oh yeah---well done mate.

Sorry if that was a bit misleading, the address on the parcel is to our club armourer and it was sent from a dealer for the seller.
II went to the armourer to open the package, that way there are no arguments about condition etc., still have to wait for final police approval before I get my sweaty hands on it. First shots will be 12 days hence.

 

[Stantheman86]

That's a great price for that. It's a good looking gun

I always liked the ".44 Navies" , I have a Pietta steel frame and 3 brassers.

I think it's a gun Colt should have produced . I'm in the vast minority in that I like the look of the Navy better than the 60 Army and 61 Navy . The 60 Army is cool to me because of it's long and historical use but most of my collection is Dragoon types and Navy clones

 

[Colonial Boy]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Colt produced a few .44 Navies, experimentally, when working up to what became the streamlined 1860 Army.

 

[thomasgunn]

Very nice! I prefer the look of the older Euroarms/Navy Arms era revolvers to the newer CNC produced ones. Call me odd.

 

[Stantheman86]

I seem to remember reading somewhere that Colt produced a few .44 Navies, experimentally, when working up to what became the streamlined 1860 Army.

There were prototypes for a .44 Navy but Sam probably thought he might as well make a new design for the barrel to make it "new and improved" with the new style loading lever.

 

[Colonial Boy]

And I guess, and hope, that the modern .44 Navy is pretty close to what Colt turned out.
Perhaps some of the books on Colt have photos.

 

[Stantheman86]

And I guess, and hope, that the modern .44 Navy is pretty close to what Colt turned out.
Perhaps some of the books on Colt have photos.

It looks like he rounded up the area by the loading lever screw and rounded the barrel, it's probably just a test bed used to see if the frame could handle the .44 but I'm sure Sam thought about making this.

In 1858 he also designed a .40 Navy but it never made it to production.

All the "A .44 Navy never existed" people can take note

Also, the Confederate gunmakers experimented with .44's, and some .44 Brass/Bronze frame revolvers were thought to have been made by Griswold and Gunnison, and others as well as a few with steel frames, other than Dance & Brother and Tucker & Sherrard based on research by people a lot smarter than me who research this stuff for a living

 

[Colonial Boy]

Stantheman86,
Thanks for that, would have made an interesting piece.
Wouldn’t mind making a copy myself.
Edit: Within the limitations imposed by reproductions

 

[Stantheman86]

Stantheman86,
Thanks for that, would have made an interesting piece.
Wouldn’t mind making a copy myself.
Edit: Within the limitations imposed by reproductions

Popping a round barrel from a Pietta "Reb .44 Navy" onto a Pietta steel frame with a plain cylinder, would almost do it, the full flute cylinder would be a challenge with Uberti making those....

Uberti should just do a run of the ".44 Colt Navy prototype ", they'd sell every single one they could make

 

[Colonial Boy]

Finally got lawful possession last Friday, no chance to shoot till later this month.
Some photos,

As you can see the locating pins came away with the barrel and would be very easy to loose, a bit of Locktite is called for.They are ab excellent fit, no wobbles, either in the barrel or the body.
pistol has been fired at least once as there was a tiny bit of fouling on the face of the rammer, but, as described as possibly unfired, is a close enough description,, I’d have said ‘unfired’ but for that little bit of fouling.
For some reason I can’t post thumnails.