Euroarms 1858 .36

[nkbj]

Never had a Euroarms revolver before and now obtained an old but new 1858 .36.
.395 round ball sits almost half way down in the chamfers. The timing and chambers alignment to the barrel is spot on. The trigger pull is light and crisp. Everything is tight and finely finished.
Is / was this the norm for Euroarms? Or was this .36 perhaps worked on?

 

[Ken Cormier]

I have not owned the brand YET. It sounds like you have a shooter. Enjoy hotoSmile:

 

[swathdiver]

.395 round ball sits almost half way down in the chamfers.

Is / was this the norm for Euroarms? Or was this .36 perhaps worked on?

This was more common than not with ASM and Uberti too!

Now what did the barrel slug out too? You want the chambers not larger than .002 over groove diameter. Now as for the ball, you're gonna need a bigger one to fit in those chambers, probably .400 caliber.

If the chamber to groove relation is off too much, sell it for parts on ebay and go buy a new Pietta and some accessories with the profits.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

I have a euroarms 1851 navy it is uncommonly smooth for an italian gun of that vintage

I recall others saying their repution was better.

 

[Patocazador]

My Euroarms 1851 Navy .36 has a problem binding if the wedge is in normally. If I loosen it so the cylinder rotates properly, there is a fairly large barrel cylinder gap. I don't care for it .. never have. I bought it in the late '70s.

 

[nkbj]

The chambers and groove diameter are "the same" depending upon how deeply the ball gets seated into the taper reamed chambers. The only thing I can see wrong is that the factory nipples have holes that belong in a flintlock.
Been busy today shaping a brown buffalo horn butt plate for the east Texas critter getter but I'm looking forward to trying out this little .36.

 

[hawkeye2]

".395 round ball sits almost half way down in the chamfers" (italics mine)

So what is the diameter if a .395" round ball a little short of its full diameter? The only thing it told you is that it is larger than the chambers. Drive a ball into the chamber, pull it or push it out from the nipple opening and measure it. Slug the bore, measure and compare. The bore should equal or be slightly smaller than the chamber.

Euroarms & EOA were one of the better imports and their .36 Remington was the only one built on the correct sized frame.

 

[nkbj]

The chambers are chamfered for ease of loading, making the .395 sit pretty low. I used a bullet cast from soft lead and determined that the chambers are taper reamed. The groove diameter is right at .376". The front of the tapered chambers behind the chamfering match the bore.

 

[hawkeye2]

Sounds like you got yourself a keeper! I wish I had picked up a Euroarms .36 years ago. I bought a Pieta .36 and was less than pleased with it. I have an extremely abused, by previous owners, Euroarms .44 and it is still quite accurate.

 

[swathdiver]

Well, if they're both .376 then a .380 round ball should work just fine.

 

[nkbj]

Anyone know off hand what nipple size Euroarms used? Looks like I'm gonna be best off making a dimensioned drawing and emailing the info to Track.

 

[Zonie]

What?

Your going to make a dimensioned drawing so they can fill in the dimensions?

First off, you'll have to know the dimensions before you can make the drawing.

Second, I really doubt the people at TOTW will be willing to take the time to measure all of the features of a nipple so they can fill in the missing dimensions.

Basicly, C&B revolvers use short nipples for their cylinder.
Single shot pistols use the same long nipples that rifles use.

Nipples come in several thread sizes and both short and long nipples are available in all of the common ones.

If you have a Euroarms gun, remove the nipple and take it to a hardware or auto parts store.
They will be able to measure the threads and tell you what you have.

 

[nkbj]

Dadgummit calm down now. :haha: I'm gonna mike out the existing nipples and send them the info so they have something to go by. There's no way for them to tell otherwise.

 

[swathdiver]

I'm gonna mike out the existing nipples and send them the info so they have something to go by. There's no way for them to tell otherwise.

When trying to identify oddball cones, it's much easier to stick it in the mail and send it to Track of the Wolf. I'll get a call, they'll tell me what part number, I'll order and they'll send the original back separately without charge.

 

[zimmerstutzen]

I have two euroarms 1851 navies. Iirc the threads are the same as pietta BUT the oal is .5 millimeter shorter than pietta.

 

[nkbj]

Thanks. I'll check it out.

 

[nkbj]

Went out banging the gong. Cleaning 'er up.

 

[nkbj]

Certainly seen better finish on chambers.

 

[nkbj]

The rifling is a nice change from Pietta and should be cracker jack with bullets once the chambers are polished. Maybe the barrel gets lapped and then the chambers honed to suit.

 

[swathdiver]

Polished chambers? Isn't a little friction helpful to keep the balls in place under recoil?