Finest quality percussion revolvers?

[Bad Karma]

@StanTheMan you posted this.

”Hollywood and the game companies squeezed the life out of WWII for 20 years and they're still squeezing.....they'll crank out loosely historical action movies like MidWay or Fury, and there's probably more WWII games that have been made than anyone can count . They're starting to play around with WWI little bit too

All of this fuels the gun market, absolutely. We've all seen it, or even bought a gun because it was in a cool movie.

The Civil War is a hot topic and Confederates hurt people's feels so we're not likely to get a Civil War big budget movie but Hollywood still loves period movies, one CGI generic shoot em up set in the Mexican War with big name actors using Walkers, and boom we have a new market for Walkers. Even if people don't know or care about the history, if Henry Cavill is riding around with a Walker in each hand blasting away, people will leave the theater or their La Z Boy at home Googling how to order one . A custom gun maker could easily sell high end cap and ballers

Look how repro percussion revolvers started......from movies and the Civil War centennial

Jeremiah Johnson probably sold how many 1000s of Hawkens , that helped the high end custom Hawken makers

It doesn't take much to spark a demand. Romano Rifles makes high end reproduction breech loaders and rifles like Tyler rifles. Someone is buying their stuff or they wouldn't be around. I can't believe no one is making custom percussion revolvers…”


I just sent an email to Standard Manufacturing about this very topic. I’m 76 years old so I told them I’m in a hurry… I don’t even buy green bananas anymore…

 

[hawkeye2]

It would be nice if someone manufactured a top quality C&B revolver but I expect Standard would get about $2,000 for one. I can buy a Uberti or Pietta and send it to Goons (45D) and get back a gun that's as slick and smooth as my mid 60s S&W .41 mag and with everything (including a frame full of Mobile 1 grease) said and done for under $700 total.

 

[TDM]

It would be nice if someone manufactured a top quality C&B revolver but I expect Standard would get about $2,000 for one. I can buy a Uberti or Pietta and send it to Goons (45D) and get back a gun that's as slick and smooth as my mid 60s S&W .41 mag and with everything (including a frame full of Mobile 1 grease) said and done for under $700 total.

I have no good excuse for not sending at least one of my revolvers to @45D.

 

[cynthialee]

I have no good excuse for not sending at least one of my revolvers to @45D.

I keep meaning to do it myself.

 

[GYJ]

I'd be in line but I seriously doubt there's much of a market for them. Most people complain about the quality of what we already have and wonder why they're not still $200.

 

[Stantheman86]

@StanTheMan you posted this.

”Hollywood and the game companies squeezed the life out of WWII for 20 years and they're still squeezing.....they'll crank out loosely historical action movies like MidWay or Fury, and there's probably more WWII games that have been made than anyone can count . They're starting to play around with WWI little bit too

All of this fuels the gun market, absolutely. We've all seen it, or even bought a gun because it was in a cool movie.

The Civil War is a hot topic and Confederates hurt people's feels so we're not likely to get a Civil War big budget movie but Hollywood still loves period movies, one CGI generic shoot em up set in the Mexican War with big name actors using Walkers, and boom we have a new market for Walkers. Even if people don't know or care about the history, if Henry Cavill is riding around with a Walker in each hand blasting away, people will leave the theater or their La Z Boy at home Googling how to order one . A custom gun maker could easily sell high end cap and ballers

Look how repro percussion revolvers started......from movies and the Civil War centennial

Jeremiah Johnson probably sold how many 1000s of Hawkens , that helped the high end custom Hawken makers

It doesn't take much to spark a demand. Romano Rifles makes high end reproduction breech loaders and rifles like Tyler rifles. Someone is buying their stuff or they wouldn't be around. I can't believe no one is making custom percussion revolvers…”


I just sent an email to Standard Manufacturing about this very topic. I’m 76 years old so I told them I’m in a hurry… I don’t even buy green bananas anymore…

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I've never heard of this company , now I have to check them out

The incentive for them to tool up to make Percussion Colts will be if they know they have a customer base. I think forward looking recreational shooters of a certain demographic would pay $2000 for a top quality percussion Colt , because it will probably be harder and harder to find components to reload cartridges, to find factory ammunition....and our European and British friends are already a strong market for muzzleloading and will ensure a market for black powder and caps .

The European market would also be a hungry market for a high end percussion Colt clone

My thing is this.......45D can't wave a magic wand and change the steel a Uberti or Pietta is made from. The steel used is very mild . I dinged my Uberti Walker barrel with light tapping of a brass punch once. It dented like butter. They're as hard as they need to be but also heat treated to the price point .

A properly fitted percussion Colt, with a fitted Arbor, hand fitted internals, made from the proper alloys of 4140 Ordnance Steel in the right consistency for the cylinder, frame, barrel, internal parts ....and this company already makes Colt clones so a switch to 1860s, 51s and Dragoons wouldn't be a stretch at all.

People like Parker-Hale Enfields for this reason. The steel in the barrels is better.

I'd put a Deposit down right now with this company for a $2,000 1860 Army that I can just shoot, not have to worry about anything, or have to send to someone to "fix" . Buy Once, Cry Once......it would be one of the guns you could just shoot for the rest of your life and have fun with.

 

[Bad Karma]

It would be nice if someone manufactured a top quality C&B revolver but I expect Standard would get about $2,000 for one. I can buy a Uberti or Pietta and send it to Goons (45D) and get back a gun that's as slick and smooth as my mid 60s S&W .41 mag and with everything (including a frame full of Mobile 1 grease) said and done for under $700 total.

Who knows? Standard Manufacturing knows… I suggest anyone who is even remotely interested write them a note. Let them know there’s a market and it’s not far off the one they’re currently servicing.

 

[Stantheman86]

I just checked out their website, those Model P clones look beautiful . Not as beautiful as a 4140 steel 1851 Navy would look though

I think the ability to skip the need for an FFL dealer is also a big plus for a market for a top shelf percussion Colt repro

I just emailed them indicating my interest in throwing my money at them

 

[Sam squanch]

Don’t think anyone will attempt to produce a high dollar colt percussion replica for a mass market. If anything, I read about a revolver in the UK that was a modern, but adapted to cap and ball to get around the handgun ban. That would sell here .

 

[Uncle Miltie]

We already have one: the Pedersoli 1858 Pattern Remington. But folks in the US are too cheap to buy one.

 

[stikshooter]

Don’t think anyone will attempt to produce a high dollar colt percussion replica for a mass market. If anything, I read about a revolver in the UK that was a modern, but adapted to cap and ball to get around the handgun ban. That would sell here .

Not for long ,the laws they are a changin NY just did and more to follow! /Ed

 

[Daytime Smoker]

I’ve heard of this company. They make some very nice 1911’s. I know that is an unmentionable, but it’s still sweet!

Anthony

 

[Comfortably_Numb]

If I'm spending that kind of money I'm buying antiques.

 

[45D]

The Piettas and Uberti's available today are better "materially" than the originals. The originals are quite soft by comparison. So, any "new" reproduction Colt open-top starts out with a better "foundation". Therefore, depending on the degree of FITMENT and added appointments, truing the surfaces (mainly the recoil ring and recoil shield) , resetting the arbor and of course arbor length correction , you end up with a rather superior revolver than the originals.
Adding interference pins ( keeps the action screws from loosening), hammer shims, an action shield along with the normal action stop, bolt block, coil springs and setting correct timing will give you a revolver far greater than the sum of the whole.
Add to that the testing I've been doing (with high pressure unmentionable ammo) with the Uberti platform and you absolutely have as modern a bp open-top revolver that anyone could/would produce. The only upgrade at that point would be a trip to Turnbull.

Mike

 

[springfield art]

I just checked out their website, those Model P clones look beautiful . Not as beautiful as a 4140 steel 1851 Navy would look though

I think the ability to skip the need for an FFL dealer is also a big plus for a market for a top shelf percussion Colt repro

I just emailed them indicating my interest in throwing my money at them

Yeah, the idea of skirting around the 'dealer' thing is appealing; always was for me, the way it should be and was intended by the 2nd.

 

[Jappo]

I’ve heard the Santa Barbara 1858 are the best and that “professional” shooters covet them. I did a little research on them but so far not much about them. There is a group on Facebook but not much there either.

 

[Stantheman86]

Yeah, the idea of skirting around the 'dealer' thing is appealing; always was for me, the way it should be and was intended by the 2nd.

Muzzleloaders are the last holdout of back when people could order a S&W 1917 and a 30-06 bolt gun over the mail .

I love ordering or winning a muzzleloader and having it delivered. My friendly UPS man just dropped off a Pedersoli Cook & Brother. I honestly wouldn't own nearly as many if I had to go through a dealer

 

[Stantheman86]

I’ve heard the Santa Barbara 1858 are the best and that “professional” shooters covet them. I did a little research on them but so far not much about them. There is a group on Facebook but not much there either.

They were made in the 1970s I think , and they are prized because they use very high grade steel . They occasionally pop up on GunBroker

 

[Stantheman86]

If I'm spending that kind of money I'm buying antiques.

You can't shoot hundreds of rounds per week through an Antique

 

[Jappo]

They were made in the 1970s I think , and they are prized because they use very high grade steel . They occasionally pop up on GunBroker

I bought one, of all places ebay. Bought the complete frame. The person later listed the cylinder and I bought it too. I did shoot it with a Pietta cylinder before I got the Santa Barbara cylinder. So I know the Pietta cylinder will interchange with it. Don’t know about other parts. It shoots high just like any other black powder revolver.