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Tall-TBushwacker said:
How accurate is Track of the Wolfs edward marshall's rifle? what is the correct caliber?

The original rifle does not have a "bent" lockplate.
I think the rifle is 58 caliber today so 54-58 would be fine. It may have been smaller than 54 when made. No way to know.

Dan
 
Accuracy, as with any rifle, all depends on you & how determined & precise you are in all aspects of loading, shooting, working loads, etc. The barrel quality of this rifle will shoot more accurately than you can hold it, if you find the correct load. :wink:

As for caliber, the caliber of the original Marshall rifle is .58 caliber, as it is now.

As for the lock, the Davis lock has a tad more bow than the original rifle, but a doable lock.

TOW's Edward Marshall rifle is the exact same pattern as their 37" Jaeger rifle, just dif. trim. The original Marshall barrel is 37 15/16" long & the TOW kit uses a 37" one.

It is a really Solid build rifle & thick wrist, a "Hoss" of a rifle. When you pick it up & shoulder it you can feel the balance yet the size & weight gives you a feeling of ultimate power in this gun. It is just a really solid & durable feeling rifle....

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You are probably aware that most feel the Marshall gun to be restocked possibly in the 1770's from an earlier gun, it is a nice looking gun and has a large following it would not have been the gun he carried on his "walk" Do you shoot with the old Flying M group? I live a bit south of you in McMinnville and have hunted the coastal rain forests since the early '60's ML only for the last 20 years, smoothbore flintlocks
only for the last 5 or so.
 
thanks for the info. I use to shoot at the flying M about 10 or more years ago,in last year re-joined.they have new site,looks like it will work out. mostly all new good people I have hunted blackpowder when I drew a tag ,elk and deer ,long bow when I didn't . I have two smoothbores ,N,W,trade gun and a canoe gun ,haven't shot anything with a heartbeat with either ,I plan to use my Harper's Ferry this year.drew east grant elk ,trask deer this season . seem's funny we haven't crossed trails before ,but I bet we will soon ,or have just didn't know it! looking forward to hearing from ya soon. Bushwacker.
 
Good to see another local boy on the forum, I hope to hook up with the Brigade and shoot with them one o' these days, there is a good bunch there and it is great they found a new home as close to the old site as they did, take care and looking forward to seeing you at a trail shoot one day.
 
Birddog6 said:
As for caliber, the caliber of the original Marshall rifle is .58 caliber, as it is now.



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Assuming someone wants to make a true replica rifle just like when it was is 1770 or what ever.... Really this is not that important 50-54-58 any would be an "accurate representation".
My point is that we have only an approximate idea of what caliber the rifle was when it was first put into service.
It is unlikely it was 58 *if it saw much use*. It might not be now if the bore was carefully checked. Many original rifles are funneled at the muzzle to ease loading. Since I don't know how the bore was measured I must factor this in as well.
Rifles were typically recut/freshed if used very much.
Wear, corrosion etc would reduce accuracy and the grooves would be deepened and the lands also cut down. It could be and was done under field conditions. Shield's freshed Lewis's personal rifle (IIRC) during return trip of the L&C expedition when it lost accuracy.
It was just a fact of life that has to be considered when calibers of original rifles are the topic.
Col. Hanger, who was one of the noted English riflemen of the Rev-War era stated that he had never seen an American rifle larger "than 36 to the pound" and he had examined "many hundreds".
Yes, there were exceptions and yes, the rifle COULD have been a 58 when new, especially given the markings on the barrel, the size of the rifle etc. But its just as likely the bore was 52-54 when new.
Surviving "minty" rifles and written accounts of the time indicate that the idea that "Early rifles were bigger bores" the "common knowledge" back when I was first into MLing, needs to be more carefully thought out.

Dan
 

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