French 1822 percussion pistol

[wsherrill]

Hello, I am new to this forum and wanted to find out more about a recent purchase. I bought this, what I was told is a refinished French 1822 percussion pistol in .69 cal. Since it was refinished some of the markings were removed in the process. Can anyone tell me if this is an authentic pistol from the markings in these 5 pictures and what year you think is was produce? It looks like the ramrod might of been a replacement but unknown. ~ Wayne
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p701/wsherrill1/Pict1_zpse1efc23d.jpg
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p701/wsherrill1/Pict2_zpsc622ba89.jpg
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p701/wsherrill1/Pict3_zps3314814b.jpg
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p701/wsherrill1/Pict4_zps00c22357.jpg
http://i1347.photobucket.com/albums/p701/wsherrill1/Pict5_zpsfa885a7c.jpg

 

[Fernando Keilty]

Hello:
It is a modern replica. In the original, a legend in the plate (plate): "Manuf.re Royale .........." Tampco hammer design is not for the model 1822. Neither the markings on the barrel are French models.

Affectionately. Fernando K

 

[Va.Manuf.06]

It IS original, however it is NOT a French M.1822. It is a Belgian Pistol for Heavy Cavalry, M1816-22 shown here:

http://www.abl1914.be/pistzwacav181622gew/pistzwacav181622gew.htm

Sadly, it has been heavily modified by heavy use of a buffing wheel and many of the marks have been removed. It is far from a common pistol and would not have had the blued finish this one has. Now, it is worth about what a factory current reproduction might sell for..... or less. Too bad.

 

[wsherrill]

Hi Guys, thanks a bunch for the feedback, it does make me feel a little better that it is an original (its sure a solid pistol and the wood looks really old under the barrel), do you have any idea of when this might of been produced, there is a "36" on the bottom side of the barrel. Also do you think this pistol is safe to fire? Mostly bought for a nice looking mantel piece.
~ Wayne

 

[cynthialee]

We can not make the call on if it is serviceable from only a picture.

There are two way to find out. Take it to a qualified gunsmith, or remote fire it. Remote firing will be the cheapest/quickest way obviously. But if it is not serviceable and it blows up, you no longer have your wall hanger.

Edit to add: you should pull the barrel and load it with a proofing load and remote fire (with all concern to safety taken into account) with a fuse. If the barrel blows then you don't ruin the wood. If the barrel doesn't blow from a proofing load then you can shoot it without concern.

 

[wsherrill]

Sounds good, thank you for the information. I may just leave this one as a mantel display and shoot my Pedersoli's.
~ Wayne

 

[Fernando Keilty]

Hello:
Indeed, treatment with a grinding wheel or polishing, can not wipe out all traces of the original punches. Also missing from the plate (plate) the triangular piece that is put in place of the bowl when you spark a transformation of percussion, the screws of the bowl (pan) and rake (frizzen) and note the punches deep that can not be eliminated but filing.
Also this weapon punches are not equal to the link gun

Affectionately. Fernando K

 

[Va.Manuf.06]

Fernando, with all due respect, it depends on how deep the markings were stamped to begin with and how deep any pitting that was removed was. The photos are not good enough to show us everything and I stick by my statements and identification of what this is. It is a badly treated original Belgian pistol, not a reproduction. :v

 

[wsherrill]

Thanks Fernando, it sure looks like it to me. Do you know what years these were produced?
Wayne

 

[Fernando Keilty]

Hello:

I do not know precisely, but Complete other forums, and have uploaded them fake weapons, fire and white, and has said that they are produced in India.

Affectionately. Fernando K