German,Double Barrel Side x Side

[TonyW]

I just bought this gun and was trying to find who made and when, etc.
Engraved Stock, Checkered Stock and Forearm, Stock is split, All metal is pitted, (1) hammer missing and the other is very rusty.
The only markings I could find where under the Right & Left hammers.

(side 1)M.Brunner (side 2)IN Munchen

I just found Munchen translates to Munich.

Then under the barrels more text/#'s
(Allege) (Petry)&(44)
And its a precussion cap not a flint.

 

[Robert Egler]

photos would be very helpful.
hotoSmile:

 

[Supercracker]

Does it look anything like this?

 

[Robert Egler]

Does that have a carved wooden trigger guard? That's what it looks like. Never saw something like that before, very interesting!

 

[TFoley]

I just bought this gun and was trying to find who made and when, etc.
Engraved Stock, Checkered Stock and Forearm, Stock is split, All metal is pitted, (1) hammer missing and the other is very rusty.
The only markings I could find where under the Right & Left hammers.

(side 1)M.Brunner (side 2)IN Munchen

I just found Munchen translates to Munich.

Then under the barrels more text/#'s
(Allege) (Petry)&(44)
And its a precussion cap not a flint.

I betcha that It actually reads 'A Liége' and that this gun - or the barrels - was/were made in Belgium and sold by the Munich dealers. To the other post - that trigger guard is more likely made out of horn, rather than wood, and will be VERY fragile - be careful with it.

tac

 

[jdkerstetter]

I'm sure Shane will be along to set it right but I can almost guarantee that the guard on that gun is wood, probably a fruit wood, as was fairly common on German guns.

Enjoy, J.D.

 

[Supercracker]

I think that one is wood. I came within a hairs breadth of buying it a while back but decided not to. Many were horn. I have one that has a horn guard extension.

That gun is lateish perc gun by M Brunner. Probably same guy.

 

[TonyW]

I was having trouble with the photo, But yes it does look a lot like this gun.
I thought the trigger guard was wood. What type of horn was used? Cow?
I am missing one hammer, would like to replace it. Likely this will only be used for display.

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[Claude Mathis]

http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/picture.php?albumid=2236&pictureid=14185
http://www.greatlakes4x4.com/picture.php?albumid=2236&pictureid=14183

 

[Joe Wolf]

Lots of European long guns had horn trigger guards. It was cheaper than metal ones, readily available and cheaper labor to make.

The name on the lockplate(s) is usually the maker and if there is a name on the barrel that is the gun builder with lock(s) bought from someone else.

The gun is not likely Belgian made with German locks.

 

[nkbj]

That's pretty. Would like to try my hand at making a trigger guard like that.

 

[robinghewitt]

I can't see sling swivels in the pic. German and Austrian guns always have sling swivels. Don't ask me why, they just do :thumbsup:

 

[TonyW]

This gun doesn't have sling swivels.
There is a wood peg sanded flush with the stock were a swivel could have gone, I thought this to be only a repair.
I have the action free and is working correctly.
Doubt I will ever find a replacement hammer, so I will test my machinist skills.

 

[Wes/Tex]

Doubt I will ever find a replacement hammer, so I will test my machinist skills.

In the long run, it may be better to buy a pair of modern replacement hammers if you can find a style with the right 'throw' and similar styling. Keep the original to schlepp to gun shows, gun shops, etc. It's not out of the question that you may find an original to match but the odds will be long! :wink:

 

[Zonie]

Here's a link to Dixie Gunworks hammers. There may be something that will work or at least serve as a place to start.
http://www.dixiegunworks.com/default.php?cPath=22_567_588_217_219

 

[hawkeye2]

Wes/Tex is right. It is not at all uncommon to find doubles with replacement hammers that were period repairs. Replace both, identify the remaining original and keep it with the gun.

 

[steved]

I see via the link that Dixie offers hammers with different throw lengths. How do you properly measure the hammer throw?

 

[brownie1934]

I see via the link that Dixie offers hammers with different throw lengths. How do you properly measure the hammer throw?

Measure from the center of the square tumbler shaft to the center of the nipple!
Bob Reader

 

[steved]

Thanks, Bob!

 

[TonyW]

Again in response to Supercracker. I am 99% sure this gun is the same as the one on gunsinternational, just not as well kept & I see it has a swivel were I have a wood peg inserted in my stock.
And thanks for the input on my hammer ordeal.