Agree, consensus is they can’t be reached and if you get through, no certainty the barrel will be completed. I ordered a couple barrels 8 or so years ago. No money down thankfully. I like John, just that he’s not been organized in the barrel making business for a long time now. I have a couple Getz barrels on the shelf and pick one up when I can but have gone to Rice, Rayl, Charles Burton, and Bobby Hoyt since Getz became hard to reach it pin down. I used to buy from Getz exclusively because of quality and personal connection.