Green chili stew

[satx78247]

I just do NOT know that answer. - I'll look for the correct answer.

ADDENDA (2210, 13OCT14): I just looked the info up. = Comanche is a UTO-AZTECAN variation of SHOSHONE.
(Fwiw, Comanche is a "rendering of" a UTE word, KIMANSI, which means, "ENEMY".

yours, satx

 

[George]

No need to go to Texas.



Spence

 

[tenngun]

makes sense then as the word would be simmular across the group. I wonder what the root was. Chillies were grown by the anasasi er a ancesterol peublo people pre 1300 but were unknown in the New mexican peublos until the Spanish reintroduced them after 1550. Did the commanche get them from the peublos, or from a route from the Tejas
Cr 1600 they were living in eastren colorado oklahoma area and raiding in to new Mexico and Texas, Still doing farming on the Arkansas river, I wonder if they were raising chillies there.

 

[satx78247]

I just told you everything that I know about that subject.

Note: The APACHE NATION & we TSALAGI NVDAGI have been allies since 1818, (when our forebearers fled to TX about 2 steps ahead of the US Army) against the Comanches & their allies, the Commancheros.
(In 2014, the Apaches & Tsalagi Nvdagi are still close friends.)

When the Mexican Army under GEN Santa Anna crossed the Rio Bravo/Rio Grande, we NA/AmerIndians allied ourselves with the Tejanos of Los Ranchos Libres (Also called: the Fortress Ranches, that were between the Rio Bravo & the Rio Neches) and fought the Mexicans together, until our Texican Revolution was won.

yours, satx

 

[LaBonte]

chili (n.) also chilli, 1660s, from Nahuatl (Aztecan) chilli, native name for the peppers. Not named for the South American country. As short for chile con carne and similar dishes, attested by 1846.

 

REAL TEXICANS serve beans WITH rather than IN chili.
(Thus the TX-style "chili-sets" with a little oval tray with indentions for 2 bowls, sitting on top.)

Also, "in general" GREEN chili is "an import" from NM, as we Texicans usually make RED chili.

yours, satx

Odd how so many threads go off topic. The OP posted about a beef stew "with green chilis".

Why did this have to turn into a discussion of Chili and TEXAS? Somehow, you always find a way to bring up Texas or Native Americans, no matter what the subject. :rotf:

 

Note: The APACHE NATION & we TSALAGI NVDAGI have been allies since 1818, (when our forebearers fled to TX about 2 steps ahead of the US Army) against the Comanches & their allies, the Commancheros.
(In 2014, the Apaches & Tsalagi Nvdagi are still close friends.)

When the Mexican Army under GEN Santa Anna crossed the Rio Bravo/Rio Grande, we NA/AmerIndians allied ourselves with the Tejanos of Los Ranchos Libres (Also called: the Fortress Ranches, that were between the Rio Bravo & the Rio Neches) and fought the Mexicans together, until our Texican Revolution was won.

yours, satx

Speaking of STEW. :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf: :rotf:

 

[satx78247]

I wonder WHICH of the several theories, of how the South American nation got its name, is correct?
(There seems to be as many theories about naming the country, as there are recipes for the dish called chili.)

It would be FUN if the country was "named after" HOT peppers OR "the national dish of Texas". = CHUCKLE.

yours, satx

 

[LaBonte]

Chile pepper origin http://www.sci-news.com/biology/science-origins-chili-pepper-mexico-01870.html

 

[LaBonte]

etymology of the country name Chile (has nothing to do with Tejas)
The name dates to the "men of Chilli",the survivors of the first Spanish expedition into the region in 1535 under Diego de Almagro. Almagro applied the name to the Mapocho valley, but its further etymology is debated. The 17th-century Spanish chronicler Diego de Rosales derived it from the Quechua Chili, a toponym for the Aconcagua valley, which he considered a corruption of Tili, the name of a Picunche chief who ruled the area at the time of its conquest by the Inca.Modern theories derive it from the similarly named Incan settlement and valley of Chili in Peru's Casma Valley,the Quechua chiri ("cold"), the Aymara tchili ("snow")] or "depths", the Mapuche chilli ("where the land ends" or "runs out"),or the Mapuche cheele-cheele ("yellow-winged blackbird").

 

[satx78247]

That reference certainly is ONE of several possible answers to where chili peppers originated.

Nonetheless, there are NUMEROUS other "possibilities" and "theories", including:
1. Brought from Africa LONG, LONG, ago by Trans-Atlantic traders,
2. Brought to "The New World" from Asia, perhaps 20-30,000 years ago, by hunter-gathers, who were following the herds of game,
3. Brought from "overseas" as seeds "blown by prevailing winds",
4. Washed ashore by ocean waves/currents from across the sea
or
5. "deposited" to new areas by migrating birds.

IF I had to make "a single guess", I would say that peppers are NATIVE to the Western Hemisphere and to any number of other areas worldwide, too.

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

YEP. - A lot of theories BUT no sure answer.
(I've also seen a "possible answer" that suggests that Chile means, in a local Native language, "high, frozen, places".)

yours, satx

 

[tenngun]

Although popular in africa and asia, all the peppers grown now there are desended from ameican stock. Did they grow there at one time? Keep in mind camels and horses started out in America but became extinct here and survived well in euasia. Peanuts are all american and popular in asia now, some how 3500 years ago a southeast asian man in moderen day Burma (myamar)was buried with peanuts.
As for the name of the southameican nation of Chilli, one of my anceastors was with Pizzaro, Shamus McRobber.When he got in to the high country he said 'Ach, tis a might chilly up here" The spanish thought that was the name of the country, Shamus was too polite to correct them.

 

[Sean Gadhar]

Btw, those "somewhat peculiar folks" in Kalifornication turn a perfectly good Latino dish called guacamole into "baby food", too.

You just haven't tried the good stuff.

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:applause: Vary Cool

But am I the only one who was thinking :hmm: "Cool Knife" ? On this forum? can't be.

 

[satx78247]

I award you both ears for " ---- a might chilly up here ----- ": Which was a "rather clever comment".

yours, satx

 

[satx78247]

Reference peanuts in Myanmar: One of the royal mummies in the British Museum was tested some years ago & found to be "positive for" coca & chocolate, neither of which were grown in "the Old World" in 1,000BCE.

Btw, there is a FULL-SIZE, anatomically correct, African Lion statue (Obviously the sculptor had SEEN an African Lion.) in Guatemala that long pre-dates "the discovery of The New World".
(We NA were not lost, so how could we be found?)

My guess is that there was considerable trans-ocean trade in the Pre-Columbian period. - Perhaps for 3-4,000 years??

yours, satx

 

[tenngun]

Yeah a Toltec drawing of an elephant, olmec and Moche heads with african and european faces,jaguraus carved like Chiniese tigers. flint points that look like 30000 yo european points,and Izzy the iceman wearing leggings and clout, but no neolithic carving or drawing shows people dressed like that in the old world, Corse you wern't lost...you were hiding

 

[Alden]

Like MY "good" Friend MAYA [angelou] said 2 = ME once WHEN I --- wuz --- INVESTIGATIN her *RAINGUTTERS*...

Every December, I host a tree-trimming party. I serve chili with cornbread and lots of good wine. It's a wonderful party, and it shows how much adults like to play.


CHILI =
1. (chili) BUT
2. [grits] IS grits (&) SHUD *b* "eschewed".

 

[George]

If you have to chew your grits, maybe that's why you don't like them.

Spence

 

[satx78247]

Sounds about right to me.

In my experience, "those folks up yonder" in Damnyankeeland try to eat grits with milk & sugar, rather than butter & S/P.
(NO wonder that they don't like grits.)

yours, satx